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kerewin21
From the New Yorker article posted in Off Topic:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=100185

But the numbers told another story, too. Graham read me one of the questions that his pollster asked about immigration. The poll tested voters’ opinion of three different proposals to deal with illegal immigrants: “arrest and deport”; “allow them to be temporary workers, as long as they have a job”; “fine them and allow them to become citizens only if they learn English and get to the back of the line.” In two separate polls, the majority supported the third option. The average for the first option was only twenty-six per cent.



PLEASE don't turn this into another "illegal immigrants are evil" thread. I seriously am just interested in what people think, just based on these three choices, and how we differ from the American public.
A.J.
Temp workers
Ting Tong Farang
Arrest & Deport.............

Then they can get in line like the rest................

http://sqdnguns.com/themexican300.wmv
Happy Bunny
QUOTE (kerewin21 @ Dec 11 2007, 11:09 PM) *
From the New Yorker article posted in Off Topic:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=100185

But the numbers told another story, too. Graham read me one of the questions that his pollster asked about immigration. The poll tested voters’ opinion of three different proposals to deal with illegal immigrants: “arrest and deport”; “allow them to be temporary workers, as long as they have a job”; “fine them and allow them to become citizens only if they learn English and get to the back of the line.” In two separate polls, the majority supported the third option. The average for the first option was only twenty-six per cent.



PLEASE don't turn this into another "illegal immigrants are evil" thread. I seriously am just interested in what people think, just based on these three choices, and how we differ from the American public.


You ask for respect here yet give none in return. I don't know when or where anyone here has ever made the argument that 'illegals are evil'

Many illegal threads turn bad when ppl emotionally accuse others of saying things they didn't.
peejay
The biggest problem I see is that American politicians and corporations want to have modern immigration policy on the cheap. Unfortunately we get what we pay for. In a lot of ways we end up paying at the back door what we should have paid for up front. And the people that are benefitting hugely from this mismanaged immigration policy (corporations) are getting off Scot free. The people paying the least benefit the most. What we have now is immigration anarchy that does not benefit a vast majority of the American people. And we pay the most for it. Ask most Americans what a policy of mass legal and illegal immigration does for them personally and they are clueless to give a coherent answer except to recite terms they have been spoonfed for years such as "diversity, compassion, immigrant nation, atonement for the American Indians, etc., etc." IMO there is nothing there that justifies perpetuating the mess we have today.

As far as the poll goes...these 3 choices are way too simplistic to be taken seriously.

The system is overwhelmed, mismanaged, lacks necessary infrastructure, is archaic, and is institutionally corrupt. I would like to see US immigration policy take the turn it did from 1924 to 1970. What we have now is not sustainable and has played out. History must repeat itself. The key to the future is to look at the past.

The 4th viable option not given in the poll is "Attrition Through Enforcement". Enforce workplace and immigration laws. The illegal aliens will leave when the party is over. The corporations will not go bankrupt either. The sky will not fall over America without illegal aliens. We have already had 7 illegal alien amnesties, so we already know that is not a solution. What amnesties have done is to perpetuate a total lack of credibility in our immigration policy. The world knows it is a joke.

I would like to see legal immigration lowered to a level that can be competently managed by the infrastructure the American people are willing to pay for. It is obvious to me that increasing immigration is not the answer. The system cannot even competently handle what it has now (legally and illegally).
almaty
QUOTE (VJ Troll @ Dec 11 2007, 11:07 PM) *
Temp workers


i 2nd that
Nessa
arrest and deport.
Jenn!
Gimme an "I"!!!!!
charles!
draw and then quarter good.gif
jazzette
Other countries do not separate their citizens from their immediate families, it is not right for the US to do this.
Ting Tong Farang
QUOTE (jazzette @ Dec 13 2007, 11:17 PM) *
Other countries do not separate their citizens from their immediate families, it is not right for the US to do this.


Name them?
Paul Daniels
Rape and Pillage.

Oops - that wasn't one of the options was it...
jazzette
QUOTE (SqdnGuns @ Dec 13 2007, 10:21 PM) *
QUOTE (jazzette @ Dec 13 2007, 11:17 PM) *
Other countries do not separate their citizens from their immediate families, it is not right for the US to do this.


Name them?

Germany, Ireland
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