221(g)

[AfricanQ 241]

Long story short: My fiance and i met August 2016 on facebook. He lives and Ghana and im a US citizen (living in the states) . I went to see him Feb 9, 2017 thru Mar.1(1st trip)  we got engaged and had a enagement party. We even had a pastor to blessed our enagement. We took lots and lots of pics with family and friend, places we visited, recipts of everything and where we stayed. I returned to the states and filed K1 visa  of March 2017: We mailed

* whatsapp call logs, text, video chats with family/friends, emails, facebook chats/posts from when we met August 2016 thru March 2017. Pics of enagaement(30) pics with family/friend, and places we visited (30 or more) we def front loaded. Boarding pass, passport stamps, flight booking,  letter of intent (both of us) how we met letter. I also got him an engagment ring......we had recipts of our engagment rings, gift recipts mailed, posts for bday wishes from family and friends tage ...We had everything!!!!

 

 ....Got approved sept 5 2017. Went back for my 2nd trip october 19, 2017 thru Nov. 1, 2017 for my bday....was there was 2 weeks due to my jobs. We again took lots of pics with family/friends/places we visited/recipts of everything( where we lived). Total pics ( 50 or 60)

 

His interview for Dece 6, 2017

 we had:

Whatsupp call log, video chats, text messages, emails, (wedding discussion) facbook chats and posts from August 2016 thru Nov, 2017, updated intent to marry from both of us, pic of wedding dress, our wedding band n recipts. Pics of enagement party my family had for me in the states, more pics of friend/family, gift recipts, letter of no marriage from court,  his police report medical, passport stamp, flight bookings, plane tickets...paystubs, letter from my jobs, chats with my fiance bother/sister, bday pics my bday gathering witg his family and friend on my bday, pics of my pre bday celebration his family had for me with food n drink on the beach .....again we had everything but was given a 221g n case was being returned. 

 

Interview Questions:

Names of fiancee silbings?

Does her mother knws about the relationship?

When was the last time u saw ur fiancee? 

He answered every questions, the office left, came back with the white paper. After that he took ny fiance teleohone number n handprints and said we will call u. No other infornation was even!! We dont why our case  is being returned!

 

 

 

[G Walters 136]

This statement you made could be part of the problem. I went to see him Feb 9, 2017 thru Mar.1(1st trip)  we got engaged and had a enagement party. We even had a pastor to blessed our enagement.  Engaged on first meeting and an engagement party with a blessing by a pastor. They may be looking at this as you are to married for a K-1. Some times the party and such can cause you to be to married for a k-1 but not married enough for a CR-1. You need more info on what is holding up the visa issuance.

[geowrian 22,335]

What exactly does the 221(g) letter say?

[Going through 5,668]

18 minutes ago, AfricanQ said:

we got engaged and had a enagement party. We even had a pastor to blessed our enagement.

 

Sometimes this can be considered "too married" for the K1 visa.

Edited December 7, 2017 by Going through

[Murph4865 597]

16 minutes ago, AfricanQ said:

Long story short: My fiance and i met August 2016 on facebook. He lives and Ghana and im a US citizen (living in the states) . I went to see him Feb 9, 2017 thru Mar.1(1st trip)  we got engaged and had a enagement party. We even had a pastor to blessed our enagement. We took lots and lots of pics with family and friend, places we visited, recipts of everything and where we stayed. I returned to the states and filed K1 visa  of March 2017: We mailed

* whatsapp call logs, text, video chats with family/friends, emails, facebook chats/posts from when we met August 2016 thru March 2017. Pics of enagaement(30) pics with family/friend, and places we visited (30 or more) we def front loaded. Boarding pass, passport stamps, flight booking,  letter of intent (both of us) how we met letter. I also got him an engagment ring......we had recipts of our engagment rings, gift recipts mailed, posts for bday wishes from family and friends tage ...We had everything!!!!

 

 ....Got approved sept 5 2017. Went back for my 2nd trip october 19, 2017 thru Nov. 1, 2017 for my bday....was there was 2 weeks due to my jobs. We again took lots of pics with family/friends/places we visited/recipts of everything( where we lived). Total pics ( 50 or 60)

 

His interview for Dece 6, 2017

 we had:

Whatsupp call log, video chats, text messages, emails, (wedding discussion) facbook chats and posts from August 2016 thru Nov, 2017, updated intent to marry from both of us, pic of wedding dress, our wedding band n recipts. Pics of enagement party my family had for me in the states, more pics of friend/family, gift recipts, letter of no marriage from court,  his police report medical, passport stamp, flight bookings, plane tickets...paystubs, letter from my jobs, chats with my fiance bother/sister, bday pics my bday gathering witg his family and friend on my bday, pics of my pre bday celebration his family had for me with food n drink on the beach .....again we had everything but was given a 221g n case was being returned. 

 

Interview Questions:

Names of fiancee silbings?

Does her mother knws about the relationship?

When was the last time u saw ur fiancee? 

He answered every questions, the office left, came back with the white paper. After that he took ny fiance teleohone number n handprints and said we will call u. No other infornation was even!! We dont why our case  is being returned!

 

 

 

Pictures of ceremony and having a engagment ceremony is where you went wrong they let it go till interview time. Never say you had a party and then provide picts, ghana is a hard embassy

[Going through 5,668]

19 minutes ago, AfricanQ said:

pic of wedding dress, our wedding band n recipts

Also could be taken into consideration as "too married" already.

[IcezMan_IcezLady 582]

You got a pastor involved in your "engagement"? That right there is marriage.. Complete the full marriage rites and file CR-1

[LoveyJA 1]

Ghana engagements usually count as marriages.... in my opinion they have viewed your relationship as a marriage. Not an engagement 

[mytruelove18 607]

Very sorry, but did they tell him that the case will be returned to usa?, or just did they give him a 221 paper?,

I ask because my case is under ap, i was given a 221 paper on my interview, and i am waiting, the consular officer told when they review some papers and if all is in order they will issue the visa

[IcezMan_IcezLady 582]

You did too much :

1. we got engaged and had a enagement party. We even had a pastor to blessed our enagement.

2. " I also got him an engagment ring"  

 

^^ those were your problems based on what you wrote. The Ghanaian "engagement" is an actual marriage under customary law of Ghana.

Adding a "party" solidifies this point. And a pastor on top seals..You are married.

2.  I don't know of which culture that has men wear engagement rings... certainly not Ghanaian.

 

You had good intentions but you did "too much" in trying to show that you are indeed engaged to him.

A word of advice to American women dating Ghanaian men, please stay away from these traditional "engagements". it is a complicated concept and would easily get you denied especially for K-1 process. You can do it later after your fiance has arrived in the US.

[Unlockable 7,306]

So not only did you have an engagement ceremony where a priest was involved, you also exchanged rings. So both you and your fiance are wearing rings?

 

Yeah, you went too far. They may be thinking you are officially married. 

 

Do you have the official denial on the 221g? If so share what it says.

 

If it is in fact ineligibility due to them thinking your are already married, be prepared to forget about the K1, and file for a spousal visa.

[AfricanQ 241]

40 minutes ago, Going through said:

 

Sometimes this can be considered "too married" for the K1 visa.

Thats what im thinking!

[AfricanQ 241]

3 minutes ago, NuestraUnion said:

So not only did you have an engagement ceremony where a priest was involved, you also exchanged rings. So both you and your fiance are wearing rings?

 

Yeah, you went too far. They may be thinking you are officially married. 

 

Do you have the official denial on the 221g? If so share what it says.

 

If it is in fact ineligibility due to them thinking your are already married, be prepared to forget about the K1, and file for a spousal visa.

221g says hes ineligibility for visa

[AfricanQ 241]

50 minutes ago, geowrian said:

What exactly does the 221(g) letter say?

Hes ineligibility for visa n the case was being returned 

[Unlockable 7,306]

1 minute ago, AfricanQ said:

221g says hes ineligibility for visa

Then it sounds like the ceremony did it.

 

Sorry. This is a tough lesson to learn. Wish you could have found VJ well before having that engagement party. Just in the last week there have been about 3-4 threads of people asking if having such an event was ok.