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Hello Everyone

 

I'm new to the forum. It was a long story, but I try to keep it short, if anyone interested in detail, I will have more. I am from China and married to a USC, originally I came here by F-1 visa and studied at a prestigious university. I met my ex-wife on the internet in September 2014, after three months of dates, we bought a house and moved in together. We entered our marriage in 2015 May. In 2016 March, I got my 2 years green card. However, my wife, she cheated on me and had a baby with another man after she filed divorce last year April. Our marriage comes the its end by August 2016. And I hired a lawyer to file I-751 waiver based on good faith marriage, it went to CSC, at this point, I am still waiting for RFE. We had a strong pack of evidence, every possible evidence, joint house, cars, all bills, membership, pets, air and hotel tickets to New York-Hawaii honey trip, receipt of a diamond ring, e.t.c... the list goes on. However, my lawyer had some personal prejudices against me, saying "the local office will never believe a China man could ever marry a white American woman." "You are the kind of person USCIS wants to deport and kick you out of the country" "if you travel, you may never come back, e.t.c." "They will put you in prison if you get denied." So, I am worried about 'kangaroo court', if you know what I mean.

 

Now I have already graduated from my alma mater but could not find any decent mean to live here. So I am thinking about going back to China in October, at least my departure will make America greater again one step ahead. I see current CSC processing time in on 20 June 2016, I am afraid what if  I got called to an interview before my departure and denied, fast placed to immigration prison? My lawyer threatens me if I got denied by the local office, ice will bust my house arrest me, I don't know if I should believe him? Because I studied on this matter if my case denied, I can no longer have the valid statue once the card expired, which it will be in March 2018, but then I would be long gone. My current plan is pack up, leave the country on October 15th, once I'm in China, I will go straight to US embassy in Beijing and surrender my green card, then say God bless America. Most likely I won't be back to states in a long time, perhaps never again. Now my question is if I got called to the interview before my departure, and I went and got denied, or simply not showing up, what will happen?  Can I safely stay here until my departure?(Again, my card expire by March 2018) Right now I feel like I'm acting the movie Dunkirk, intensified and scattered. I only have roughly 40 days left. Anyone has any idea, Please comment, suggest and help me!

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Thank you so much gypsyqueen! Yes, I spent few months to think about this issue. And I made my decision, go back where my family is and call it home. Job-wise, China is in prosperity now, plenty of opportunities. Wouldn't I can only be deportable after case denied and card expired? By the time my green card expired, I will be long gone. Where I live, you can see ice every day, they are active. Worried about if they will put me on the fast track.

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3 minutes ago, ChristopherChu said:

Wouldn't I can only be deportable after case denied and card expired?

Yes, you are correct. You have a legal status in this country so you don't have to worry.

 

If you made up your mind, US is losing a well-educated citizen.  I wish circumstances would have been different for you - marriage wise. I wish you good luck in your future endeavors.

**N-400** 06-27-2018 : N-400 online & NOA1 || 07-07-18 : received Bio Appt e-mail notification || 07-27-18 : Biometrics reviewed || 09-25-18 : OFFICIAL 3 YEAR ANNIVERSARY || 11-06-18 : Interview 

|| 12-18-2018 : APPROVED; in line to be scheduled for Oathtaking || 02-11-19 : OATHTAKING CEREMONY --

**ROC** (pending)  07-26-2017 : I-751 sent || 07-31-2017 : NOA1 || 09-05-2017 : Biometrics || 08-09-2018 : Case transferred to local office || 12-18-2018 : Card in production || 12-26-18 : received GC --

**AOS/EAD/AP** 02-20-2015 : AOS filed || 02-24-2015 : NOA1 || 03-19-2015 : Biometrics || 04-30-2015 : EAD&AP approved || 05-05-2015 : EAD&AP received || 09-25-2015 : Conditional GC approved || 10-02-2015 : GC received --

**K-1** 08-12-2014 : I-129F Sent || 08-14-2014 : NOA1 || 09-03-2014 : NOA2 || 09-10-2014 : Petition transferred from USCIS to NVC || 09-18-2014 : NVC received || 09-24-2014 : US Embassy MNL received our case || 10-14-2014 : Medical Exam done! || 10-23-2014 : Interview || 10-31-2014 : Passport & Visa on hand --

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Thank you Frage! I noticed on I-751-c form, 'Notice of Action' explained, the person is subjected to deportation after the abandonment of the case or denial of the case. Usually, by the time people's status relied on 'Notice of Action', their green card has already expired. In my case, my card won't expire before mine departure. However, if I got a rejection, I am I also being deportable?

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Thank You missileman! Yes, he is a real lawyer. I hired him through my family law lawyer's recommendation, at the same time it's odd that his competency deems mismatch with his Avvo rating... Before him, I went Several attorneys, none of them would handle my case, once they heard 'Divorce'.

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Based on current CSC processing time, anyone would guess if it is likely I will be called to the interview within 40 days? Although, RFE should come first...

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Fire the 'lawyer' - immediately - as he is talking utter s****.

 

 

 

Your chances of approval or denial with a divorce waiver are the same as without - they are still adjudicated on the bona-fide-ness evidence presented. If you are for some reason denied,  you can appeal, all the way to an immigration judge. 

Generally, once you have filed an I-751, your status as a permanent resident remains exactly as it is currently, until ordered by an immigration judge. By filing the I-751, your status is automatically extended while pending- even if your physical card has expired.

 

Your case could be pending for YEARS (as a perfect example mine is now at 2 1/4 years since filing ) but your status remains.

 

Remember that the green card is only PROOF of status, and is not the status itself.

 

As a LPR it is very unlikely that

a)ICE would turn up at your house and detain you or b)you would end up in immigration detention.

 

 

Think about your plans and peruse all available options very carefully indeed. 

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CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

 I-751 Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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33 minutes ago, mindthegap said:
 

 

34 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

Fire the 'lawyer' - immediately - as he is talking utter s****.

Thank you mindthegap! Do you think current CSC process time( 20 June 2016) will run into my schedule(Departure on Oct 15)? Such as interview and RFE. Because I don't really want to deal with them anymore.

 

 

Your chances of approval or denial with a divorce waiver are the same as without - they are still adjudicated on the bona-fide-ness evidence presented. If you are for some reason denied,  you can appeal, all the way to an immigration judge. 

Generally, once you have filed an I-751, your status as a permanent resident remains exactly as it is currently, until ordered by an immigration judge. By filing the I-751, your status is automatically extended while pending- even if your physical card has expired.

 

Your case could be pending for YEARS (as a perfect example mine is now at 2 1/4 years since filing ) but your status remains.

 

Remember that the green card is only PROOF of status, and is not the status itself.

 

As a LPR it is very unlikely that

a)ICE would turn up at your house and detain you or b)you would end up in immigration detention.

 

 

Think about your plans and peruse all available options very carefully indeed. 

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5 hours ago, ChristopherChu said:

We entered our marriage in 2015 May. In 2016 March, I got my 2 years green card. However, my wife, she cheated on me and had a baby with another man after she filed divorce last year April.

Since people here are questioning he competence of your lawyer, one more thing, since you were still married at the time of the child's birth:

 "...in many states, the child of a married woman is automatically considered the husband's child."

I hope your lawyer made the paternity issue clear. Otherwise, if your ex-wife's new relationship fails, she could try to come back to you for child support. Not an issue if you return to China (China is not in the international Hague agreement) but may be an issue if you stay in the US).

http://www.johnbednarzpc.com/blog/2014/07/you-are-not-the-father-paternity-issues-and-divorce-in-arizona.shtml

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27 minutes ago, databit said:

Since people here are questioning he competence of your lawyer, one more thing, since you were still married at the time of the child's birth:

 "...in many states, the child of a married woman is automatically considered the husband's child."

I hope your lawyer made the paternity issue clear. Otherwise, if your ex-wife's new relationship fails, she could try to come back to you for child support. Not an issue if you return to China (China is not in the international Hague agreement) but may be an issue if you stay in the US).

http://www.johnbednarzpc.com/blog/2014/07/you-are-not-the-father-paternity-issues-and-divorce-in-arizona.shtml

Thank you for advice! That is a very important piece of information. That is scary. But I can only hope for the best between her and her current husband, wise they could be married for a hundred years. 

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31 minutes ago, databit said:

Since people here are questioning he competence of your lawyer, one more thing, since you were still married at the time of the child's birth:

 "...in many states, the child of a married woman is automatically considered the husband's child."

I hope your lawyer made the paternity issue clear. Otherwise, if your ex-wife's new relationship fails, she could try to come back to you for child support. Not an issue if you return to China (China is not in the international Hague agreement) but may be an issue if you stay in the US).

http://www.johnbednarzpc.com/blog/2014/07/you-are-not-the-father-paternity-issues-and-divorce-in-arizona.shtml

Oh, recall my previous post, I made a confusing point. While we are still married, she was pregnant, but not yet give a birth, until Jan 2017. I will change that in the original post. Sorry about that.

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6 hours ago, ChristopherChu said:

Thank you so much gypsyqueen! Yes, I spent few months to think about this issue. And I made my decision, go back where my family is and call it home. Job-wise, China is in prosperity now, plenty of opportunities. Wouldn't I can only be deportable after case denied and card expired? By the time my green card expired, I will be long gone. Where I live, you can see ice every day, they are active. Worried about if they will put me on the fast track.

Then go!  And BTW, where did you go to college?

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