Notice of intent to revoke

[kmking 10]

The uscis send a letter to my wife and the letter was lies,  the c.o lies

The letter stated. 

1.the applicants married shortly after their first meeting.

2. It appears that the beneficiary  was previously marriage, the beneficiary has two children, ages 11,4 both same mother.,shortly before the birth of his first child, the child mother's family visited the beneficiary family and performed some of the rites consistent with a customary Ghanaian marriage. 

3.during the interview, the beneficiary was unable to provide sustainable details about the petitioner life in the US,including friends, work colleagues, hobbies. 

4 the submitted photographs appears to have been taken for immigration purpose only..

 so please those who had similar problem and now they over come it, should please share your ideas,  thank you.

[Crazy Cat 39,193]

Oh my!!!  This looks like they have flagged this case as fraud.........I would start looking for a good attorney.

[geowrian 22,335]

1. When did you first meet, and when did you marry?
2. Did you perform any rituals that married couples normally undergo (even if it's not a legally recognized marriage and there's no paperwork)? I'm not familiar enough with Ghana's customs, but I have seen certain rituals be considered as marriage for immigration purposes. Either way, I'm not sure what they are getting at here as this is for a spousal visa. If it was for a K-1, I would understand their reasoning for noting this, but for a CR-1/IR-1 I don't see how it's particularly relevant to the case.
3. That's their opinion given the interview...not much to add here. If you know what questions and responses were given, that may help shed some light.
4. What photos were there?

Either way, you can attempt to dispute their findings and request that USCIS reaffirm the petition. If they review it and agree, they will send it back to the embassy and schedule another interview. They are not supposed to reject the visa for the same reason(s) once reaffirmed. An experienced attorney may be beneficial in your case to help craft your NOIR response. Good luck.

[kmking 10]

We met October 2015 and marry on the 4th  day, I have never perform any customary married before, even Ghana our culture a man must marry a woman not a woman family will come and marry a man is lies. I sent a picture of our wedding,family and friends. and it was dated. she have visited me 2nd time during my interview last year, she is now in Ghana for her 3rd visit.  Now are confused about this lies 

[MaleAlpha 314]

40 minutes ago, kmking said:

We met October 2015 and marry on the 4th  day, I have never perform any customary married before, even Ghana our culture a man must marry a woman not a woman family will come and marry a man is lies. I sent a picture of our wedding,family and friends. and it was dated. she have visited me 2nd time during my interview last year, she is now in Ghana for her 3rd visit.  Now are confused about this lies 

I can see the CO thinking that getting married after 4 days of meeting each other seems super-rushed and staged. That may be far from the truth but from the CO's point of view and assessing your relationship from documents, pictures etc. it will be harder for him to see otherwise.

 

Like other's have suggested, get substantial evidence and most importantly the advice of a lawyer as this case is likely being tagged as a fraudulent one and could potentially impact other future dealings with the US consulate as well.

 

One piece of advice (from one Ghanaian to another) : be clear in your explanation of events pertaining to your relationship as well. clear timeline etc. It took me a while to understand every thing you typed up so a CO who has a ton of work on his hands won't bother trying to make sense of everything.

Edited August 29, 2017 by MaleAlpha

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

  Did you and the mother of your children ( not your USC wife ) ever have a traditional engagement or wedding ?

[IcezMan_IcezLady 582]

1 hour ago, kmking said:

The uscis send a letter to my wife and the letter was lies,  the c.o lies

The letter stated. 

1.the applicants married shortly after their first meeting.

Flight ticket, Passport stamp and Marriage (with the date shown)

2. It appears that the beneficiary  was previously marriage, the beneficiary has two children, ages 11,4 both same mother.,shortly before the birth of his first child, the child mother's family visited the beneficiary family and performed some of the rites consistent with a customary Ghanaian marriage. 

Do you have a baby mama? Did your family meet her family to perform any rites? (What tribe is the woman? if she is a Ga and you performed outdooring for the child then you can't say you are not married. So becareful with that part if any part of number 2 is correct then  you need show proof that there is no existing relationship before you married the petitioner. Affidavit statement from family members,explain how marriage rite is performed (the man's family goes to marry the woman, the woman's family cannot come to your family to perform anything and call it marriage). You need a lawyer for this part if it is all lies.

3.during the interview, the beneficiary was unable to provide sustainable details about the petitioner life in the US,including friends, work colleagues, hobbies. 

Chat messages showing where you both talked about petitioner's friends, work colleagues and hobbies. If you have pictures petitioner shared that shows her with her friends, co-workers or enjoying her hobby.

4 the submitted photographs appears to have been taken for immigration purpose only..

 so please those who had similar problem and now they over come it, should please share your ideas,  thank you.

A lawyer can help you respond to this one. 

 

In essence, you need a lawyer but gather as much of the evidence you have at your disposal to help your case.

 

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

1 hour ago, kmking said:

The uscis send a letter to my wife and the letter was lies,  the c.o lies

The letter stated. 

1.the applicants married shortly after their first meeting.

2. It appears that the beneficiary  was previously marriage, the beneficiary has two children, ages 11,4 both same mother.,shortly before the birth of his first child, the child mother's family visited the beneficiary family and performed some of the rites consistent with a customary Ghanaian marriage. 

3.during the interview, the beneficiary was unable to provide sustainable details about the petitioner life in the US,including friends, work colleagues, hobbies. 

4 the submitted photographs appears to have been taken for immigration purpose only..

 so please those who had similar problem and now they over come it, should please share your ideas,  thank you.

 

This looks like it is the NOID/NOIR that the petitioner receives from USCIS after the case has been returned from the embassy

to USCIS with recommendation to deny the petition.

Your wife (the USC) will have 30 days to submit the rebuttal to the CO's findings.
 

1. Yes, marrying so quick after meeting is a fraud indicator.
Submit a lot of proof of all visits, receipts of your times together, photos, phone logs, chats, from the beginning of the relationship
to current. Write a relationship timeline on how you met, how your relationship grew from friendship to love to marriage.
USC needs to write this letter, it can be signed and dated by both of you.
Also submit affidavits which are letters from family and friends who can attest that you are in a bona fide marriage.
2. This states that the mother of your childrens  (beneficiary) family visited you and that is looked at as a traditional marriage
by Ghanaian custom. So they think you are traditionally married to the mother of your children.
How you can prove a rebuttal that this didn't happen is up to you, I don't know what happened.
Affidavits from your family (beneficiary) stating you did not traditionally marry the mother of your children would help, including from the
mother of the children and also if she remarried submit her marriage certificate if she will cooperate.
3. You, the beneficiary, should also write a relationship letter, including answers to the questions that he is accused of not being able to answer.
I was not there and do not know if you were able to answer all questions correctly so you two will have figure that out.
4. resubmit the photos in question (plus add about 150 updated newer ones along with wedding photos and photos with family etc)
Add a paragraph for each photos that they said were staged for immigration only, write where it was, who took it, what you did that day,

names and dates and location.

Read through this entire 52 page thread and then post in that thread for more feedback on how to submit evidence as a rebuttal.
There are a lot of people from Ghana going through the same thing.

Your wife, the USC needs to understand this as she will be the one doing the rebuttal so she needs to be here and read and research.
Time is of the essence her, she has 30 days unless the letter states otherwise.
Confirm that this is the actual NOID/NOIR request from USCIS that hse received.

[IcezMan_IcezLady 582]

7 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

 

This looks like it is the NOID/NOIR that the petitioner receives from USCIS after the case has been returned from the embassy

to USCIS with recommendation to deny the petition.

Your wife (the USC) will have 30 days to submit the rebuttal to the CO's findings.
 

1. Yes, marrying so quick after meeting is a fraud indicator.
Submit a lot of proof of all visits, receipts of your times together, photos, phone logs, chats, from the beginning of the relationship
to current. Write a relationship timeline on how you met, how your relationship grew from friendship to love to marriage.
USC needs to write this letter, it can be signed and dated by both of you.
Also submit affidavits which are letters from family and friends who can attest that you are in a bona fide marriage.
2. This states that the mother of your childrens  (beneficiary) family visited you and that is looked at as a traditional marriage
by Ghanaian custom. So they think you are traditionally married to the mother of your children.
How you can prove a rebuttal that this didn't happen is up to you, I don't know what happened.
Affidavits from your family (beneficiary) stating you did not traditionally marry the mother of your children would help, including from the
mother of the children and also if she remarried submit her marriage certificate if she will cooperate.
3. You, the beneficiary, should also write a relationship letter, including answers to the questions that he is accused of not being able to answer.
I was not there and do not know if you were able to answer all questions correctly so you two will have figure that out.
4. resubmit the photos in question (plus add about 150 updated newer ones along with wedding photos and photos with family etc)
Add a paragraph for each photos that they said were staged for immigration only, write where it was, who took it, what you did that day,

names and dates and location.

Read through this entire 52 page thread and then post in that thread for more feedback on how to submit evidence as a rebuttal.
There are a lot of people from Ghana going through the same thing.

Your wife, the USC needs to understand this as she will be the one doing the rebuttal so she needs to be here and read and research.
Time is of the essence her, she has 30 days unless the letter states otherwise.
Confirm that this is the actual NOID/NOIR request from USCIS that hse received.

CO appears to be saying that beneficiary has a baby mama and the baby mama's family visited OP's family to perform marriage rites. Culturally, that's not how it is done. The beneficiary's family should be the one to go to baby mama's family to perform the rites not the reverse. Not that USCIS might care, cos so long as there was a "RITE" performed somewhere that looks like marriage, it is marriage..lol

I stand corrected

Edited August 29, 2017 by IcezMan_IcezLady

[O&GForever 387]

1 hour ago, kmking said:

2. It appears that the beneficiary  was previously marriage, the beneficiary has two children, ages 11,4 both same mother.,shortly before the birth of his first child, the child mother's family visited the beneficiary family and performed some of the rites consistent with a customary Ghanaian marriage. 

@kmking, I am curious why would the CO think you held a traditional ceremony with your children's mother. Did you submit some kind of evidence of this? Did the CO ask questions about her and you stated you had a ceremony? It's seems strange to me that the CO would jump to that conclusion without it being either presented or stated to them. 

 

As as stated before by others, your wife needs to act quickly if you want to try and overcome this. She only has 30 days to submit all evidence she can to counter the CO's notes. Make sure it's detailed. She addresses everything point by point. 

[geowrian 22,335]

17 minutes ago, IcezMan_IcezLady said:

CO appears to be saying that beneficiary has a baby mama and the baby mama's family visited OP's family to perform marriage rites. Culturally, that's not how it is done. The beneficiary's family should be the one to go to baby mama's family to perform the rites not the reverse. Not that USCIS might care, cos so long as there was a "RITE" performed somewhere that looks like marriage, it is marriage..lol

I stand corrected

Yeah, I got confused by that as well. I originally thought the "baby mama" was the OP's wife...which is why I didn't see why they cared so much about a cultural marriage ritual when there was also legal marriage backing it later. haha

Edited August 29, 2017 by geowrian

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

Most likely they did some sort of field enquiry and someone reported having been at the mans "wedding" or knowing his "first wife"  All it takes is a few poorly worded comments by a neighbor to end your visa dreams for a long time.

[efofie 8]

I went in to the same situation. I sent more evidence and just 12 days, they reaffirmed my case.

Inbox me and we can talk about what I sent them.

The most important thing is you have to be truthful as possible. Marrying in just 4 days is a huge red flag. 

Has your wife ever come to visit since you got married?

[Crazy Cat 39,193]

51 minutes ago, NigeriaorBust said:

Most likely they did some sort of field enquiry and someone reported having been at the mans "wedding" or knowing his "first wife"  All it takes is a few poorly worded comments by a neighbor to end your visa dreams for a long time.

Those are my thoughts, too.  It seems the embassy did some detective work to get that much info.

[Happytobe 164]

2 hours ago, NigeriaorBust said:

Most likely they did some sort of field enquiry and someone reported having been at the mans "wedding" or knowing his "first wife"  All it takes is a few poorly worded comments by a neighbor to end your visa dreams for a long time.

That's what I was thinking... maybe spoke with the kids mom/family????