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I am an American, male. My wife is from Thailand. She was issued a K-1 Visa in 2014 and used it shortly after Being issued. We were wed in America and have an official marriage certificate (obtained within the 90 day period). So we are legally married. We filed for a status of adjustment (the process to obtain a green card). After doing so, we just abandoned the application and decided to live in Thailand (since having a green card requires staying in America and she missed her family...). She had an advanced parole card but it expired in 2015 December.

We have decided to return to America to stay there, after realizing that Thailand will not be our permanent home and that America will be. Here's the big question: What visa should my wife use to gain entry into US and stay in the US with me? Ideally, we want to avoid the year long K-3 visa process, as she was already vetted during the K-1 visa process. Is there any more expedient way for her to return to America? Perhaps a way for her to pick-up her K-1/adjustment of status where she left off?

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https://www.uscis.gov/about-us/find-uscis-office/international-offices/thailand-uscis-bangkok-field-office

Form I-130, Petition for an Alien Relative

You have start over again with a spousal visa, Direct Consular Filing at the local US Consulate Bangkok.

Form I-130, Petition for an Alien Relative

Done with K1, AOS and ROC

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Hi,

Your wife's AP is expired, so there is no way for her to reenter to continue her AOS. Most likely the case has closed?

Applying for the K3 requires a filing for a CR1/IR1. Once the I-130 is approved, the K3 request will be denied.

If you have legal residency in Thailand, you can file DCF. You can not file with a tourist visa.

If you do not meet the residency for DCF, then you must file in the US.

Expect this to take a year.

Best of luck.

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Hi,

Your wife's AP is expired, so there is no way for her to reenter to continue her AOS. Most likely the case has closed?

Applying for the K3 requires a filing for a CR1/IR1. Once the I-130 is approved, the K3 request will be denied.

If you have legal residency in Thailand, you can file DCF. You can not file with a tourist visa.

If you do not meet the residency for DCF, then you must file in the US.

Expect this to take a year.

Best of luck.

Thailand is tricky. They do not grant Legal residency but to only 160 people (at most, though I doubt they grant anywhere near that number) per year, per country. Obtaining legal residency there is incredibly difficult. The best a person can have in Thailand is a 1 year non-immigrant visa, which can be perpetually extended every year. I have a type O non-immigration visa, which is used for the purpose of staying with my wife. I do not have any residency and I have never extended this visa. So I am really just "visiting Thailand to see my wife" and I have no residency status whatsoever in Thailand.

I was able to get the K-1 visa before using a Visa service in Bangkok. All they did was file the forms and mail them to the UCSIS in Chicago, which I could have done myself. There was no need to be a resident or stay in any country. It was all done by mail and was location agnostic.

Are you saying that for CR1/IR1/K-3 that the sponsor must physically go to the US and file in person?

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"File in the US" - he means you need to send the paperwork for the I-130 to the USA (mail it to the appropriate lockbox), rather than filing locally in Thailand via DCF.

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* I-130/CR-1 visa by Direct Consular Filing in London
3rd May 2013 - Married in London

7th May 2013 - I-130 filed
4th June 2013 - NOA2 (approved)
16th July 2013 - Interview (approved)
30th July 2013 - POE San Francisco
29th August 2013 - 2 year green card arrived

 

* How? Read my DCF London I-130 for CR1/IR1 Spouse Guide

* Removal of Conditions (RoC) via California Service Centre
1st May 2015 - 90 day RoC window opened
6th May 2015 - I-751 filed (delivered 8th May, cheque cashed 18th May)
7th August 2015 - Approved / GC production

27th August 2015 - 10 year green card arrived

* Naturalisation (Citizenship) via Phoenix Lockbox

* San Francisco Field Office:
1st May 2016 - N-400 window opened
20th August 2016 - N-400 filed

26th August 2016 - NOA1
13th September 2016 - Biometrics

12th January 2017 - Biometrics (again)
30th May 2017 - Interview (approved)
7th June 2017 - Oath

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If you were a resident of Thailand (not a visitor) you could go for faster processing through the Bangkok embassy. You would still be doing the same visa, but on a much quicker route. This option is only available if the US citizen is a legal resident of Thailand.

If you are not a legal resident, prepare for it to take a year. Despite your wife having been vetted before, CR-1 is a superior visa as it grants residency upon arrival (no adjustment of status) and is therefore a more complex and involved process. What your wife went through for K-1 is probably a quarter of what you will have to do for CR-1. You will have to send everything to Chicago. You do not have to be physically present in the USA to file but later down the line you must demonstrate your intent to re-establish domicile there.

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Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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I would recommend double-checking with the field office in Thailand as to what documents they will accept to prove "residency" in Thailand.

I have no personal experience with the Thailand field office, but I know for example that you are able to file DCF in Peru if you are a de facto resident there, even if you've been staying just on a tourist visa (and exiting and re-entering every 3-6 months as needed) and working illegally, without legal/official Peruvian residency.

I found this link: https://www.uscis.gov/about-us/find-uscis-office/international-offices/thailand-uscis-bangkok-field-office which is a bit ambiguous (for example, they mention passport stamps and visa in the required docs, is the O visa with continuous stay in Thailand enough? it's not 100% clear). I would personally call and ask, just in case, about your specific situation and whether you could be considered a resident, as filing DCF is so incredibly quicker than filing with the Chicago Lockbox.

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Thanks for the information all, it's been very helpful. I found this thread here about DCF at USCIS Bangkok: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/134105-showing-residency-to-file-dcf-in-bangkok/

It may be the fact that a Non immigration O visa + apartment lease (1 year) will work. I have been physically present in Thailand for 1.5 years consecutively on the type O visa, under 2x diferen 1 year apartment leases. While "visiting", or rather living with and supporting my Thai wife. Although I never "extended" this visa at Thai Immigration (I just get new ones). Longterm expats here typically extend their visa, not get new ones.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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Go for the DCF if they let you. I did ours in China and it took less than 4 months. Good luck to you both!

2014/02/XX First met

2014/08/20 I start "living" in China

2014/08/23 First vacation together (Beijing)

2014/09/20 Moved in together in Suzhou

2014/11/20 Trip to Thailand together

2015/09/01 Got her parents approval to marry :)

2015/09/18 Married

2014/11/04 Honeymoon in Thailand

IR-1 begins:
2015/11/17 I-130 petition mailed out

2015/11/19 I-130 received in Chicago

​2015/11/20 NOA1

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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If you fill out your timeline it helps people help you....If you have been married for 2 years you file IR-1

CR-1 Visa

USCIS

7/27/15 Sent I-130 package to Chicago Lock box

7/29/15 NOA1, TSC

10/7/15 Entered USA for three weeks to close escrow and pack house

12/5/15 Entered USA for 90 days to visit

12/7/15 I-130 approved,NOA2

NVC

12/23/15 NVC received package

1/5/2016 Called NVC

1/7/2016 Called NVC, assigned case # and IIN #

1/7/2016 Assigned choice of agent

1/7/2016 Paid AOS fees

1/21/2016 Paid packet IV fees

2/20/2016 Filed DS-260

3/30/2016 Sent NVC package

4/5/2016 NVC received package

5/5/2016 Email from NVC...case complete with interview date 6/17

6/10/2016 Medical

6/17/2016 Interview - Approved :)

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