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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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Hello VJ members,

I have a friend who has been married 2 times and both ended up in divorce. She wants to marry one more time but theres a story and she needs advice. I told here she should join here but shes skeptical. Any advice would be great.

My friend met a guy who was coming to the states to visit family. He arrived, they met and felt like they needed to be with each other. They married and he went back to his country. She filed for the spousal visa and after some time he was here. After a few months things went sour and she found out he saw another girl (thats what he told her). She filed for a divorce and it was granted. In the time that she was waiting for his visa approval she made friends with another guy who eventually fell for after her divorce and she did a K1 visa, which was granted and she ended up marrying husband number 2. She has know husband number 2 for many years by the way. Now husband number 2 has not been very supportive as far as helping in the home and finances. She bend over backwards to make sure he had what he needed and more, but he was not very appreciative. After 1 year of marriage they separated and now she has filed for divorce.

Now since the separation she came to meet someone that she had lost contact with and they began talking and she went to visit him and his family and they are ready to live as husband and wife. From what I can see, this man is so much more real then the other 2. They say that the 3rd time is a charm. I have seen what she has gone through with the first two husbands and I have truly supported her decisions. Husband number 2 does not want the divorce but he and her have talked about it and so it be.

I see she is a good person, with good intentions and she really wants to marry this guy and move to his country later on down the line. She has already found a home in his country and both families are ok with their decision. I can tell you that what Im seeing in her face when we talk about this, it glows ! She never looked like this with her 1st and 2nd husband, Im sure that when filing for the K1 that there may be potential red flags, am I safe to assume that. What would be some good advice for her.

Thanks

K1 Visa         DENIED 

Service Center :    California Service  Center
Transferred?        No
Consulate :        Morocco
I-129F Sent :        2017-09-25
I-129F NOA1 :    2017-10-03
I-129F RFE(s) :    2018-04-02; 2018-05-08
RFE Reply(s) :    2018-04-25, 2018-05-22
I-129F NOA2 :    2018-06-04
NVC Received :    2018-06-21
Date Case #, IIN, 
and BIN assigned :    2018-06-21
NVC Left :        2018-07-10
Consulate Received :    2018-07-13
Packet 3 Received :    2018-07-31
Packet 3 Sent :    
Packet 4 Received :    
Interview Date :    2018-09-04    

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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aratamorne

She wants to live with him but not for a few years or so. She still works and is paying for a home here but she has favored the thought of moving to Morocco eventually or at least 6 months out of the year. She wants to retain residency in both countries. Perhaps one day they will move there permanently but before that can happen she and him will live in the US and save money until they are ready to retire.

Right now she still has your job and family to attend to. She is planning on going back to Morocco in a few months to spent some time with him and his again.

K1 Visa         DENIED 

Service Center :    California Service  Center
Transferred?        No
Consulate :        Morocco
I-129F Sent :        2017-09-25
I-129F NOA1 :    2017-10-03
I-129F RFE(s) :    2018-04-02; 2018-05-08
RFE Reply(s) :    2018-04-25, 2018-05-22
I-129F NOA2 :    2018-06-04
NVC Received :    2018-06-21
Date Case #, IIN, 
and BIN assigned :    2018-06-21
NVC Left :        2018-07-10
Consulate Received :    2018-07-13
Packet 3 Received :    2018-07-31
Packet 3 Sent :    
Packet 4 Received :    
Interview Date :    2018-09-04    

CR1 Visa         APPROVED !!!!!!!!!!!

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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Penguin_ie

I totally see your reasoning on this issue, however reading thru text messages and messages on fb and emails, its very clear that her 2nd marriage was a very selfish marriage on his part. The first marriage the husband already had a visa before they married and went back to his country and a R1 was done. That marriage lasted 4 years. the second marriage is 2 plus years.

When looking at it from another view yes I see that 2 marriage, 2 greencards, but the reality is that both marriages were indeed bonafide. Im sure if its brought up she will present the emails and messages between her and husband number 2. I really hate seeing her have to suffer with all of this ####### cause she did everything in both marriages only to be hurt. Shes not the kind of woman that likes to play games

In your best opinions, should she just try and face what comes next?

K1 Visa         DENIED 

Service Center :    California Service  Center
Transferred?        No
Consulate :        Morocco
I-129F Sent :        2017-09-25
I-129F NOA1 :    2017-10-03
I-129F RFE(s) :    2018-04-02; 2018-05-08
RFE Reply(s) :    2018-04-25, 2018-05-22
I-129F NOA2 :    2018-06-04
NVC Received :    2018-06-21
Date Case #, IIN, 
and BIN assigned :    2018-06-21
NVC Left :        2018-07-10
Consulate Received :    2018-07-13
Packet 3 Received :    2018-07-31
Packet 3 Sent :    
Packet 4 Received :    
Interview Date :    2018-09-04    

CR1 Visa         APPROVED !!!!!!!!!!!

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Add me to the list of posters here who think it is more about issues with her than the guys she is marrying. A K1 visa is not taking things slow with the new guy. They would still have to marry in 90 days.

Why does she have a problem with joining VJ? Nobody here would know who she was from a person sitting in Starbucks sipping coffee. Yes, she may receive some tough response to decisions on marriages but it is not like she will have to hide her face in public. Nobody knows her. If anything it would give her a better perspective of how an immigration officer would view her case.

Does she always date foreign men?

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Add me to the list of posters here who think it is more about issues with her than the guys she is marrying. A K1 visa is not taking things slow with the new guy. They would still have to marry in 90 days.

Why does she have a problem with joining VJ? Nobody here would know who she was from a person sitting in Starbucks sipping coffee. Yes, she may receive some tough response to decisions on marriages but it is not like she will have to hide her face in public. Nobody knows her. If anything it would give her a better perspective of how an immigration officer would view her case.

Does she always date foreign men?

Unfortunately some people on here don't realize the K1 is for giving someone 90 days to plan a wedding and get married. People seem to think you bring them over and you have 90 days to figure out if you want to get married or not. They don't actually have to get married after 90 days that's what the visa is designed for and you will probably be asked questions later if you decide to bring someone else over. I'm guessing that is also the reason why there's kind of a limit on how many K1's you can do without needing a waiver.





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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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I appreciate all your advice. I have spoken with her and yes she only likes foreign men unfortunately. She has had a very difficult life, first marriage at 40. Unfortunately, she fell into 2 relationships where hubby # 1 when and saw another woman and she was married for years with him, and hubby #2 was selfish and would never put into the home only sent money to his family and bought things for himself. He would say things that a husband shouldnt say to the woman he supposedly loved. She has a good career here and she is quite capable of providing.

Selling or renting the home she has now would be good, however she has her mother and child still here, so that is not an option at this moment. Yes she could join but she feels like she cant handle criticism right now because of her situation. Honestly she is an amazing woman, out going, charitable, hard working, loving, compassionate, just she picked men that thought marriage was a game. Despite the hurt they gave her she is still in contact with them and they make better friends rather than in a relationship.

Thank you all who answered, she is aware of the red flags and expects that but knowing her she will make this happen, she will fight and fight hard. I just want to see her happy and I truly believe that this time will be the last time she has to find someone who loves her more now than before.

K1 Visa         DENIED 

Service Center :    California Service  Center
Transferred?        No
Consulate :        Morocco
I-129F Sent :        2017-09-25
I-129F NOA1 :    2017-10-03
I-129F RFE(s) :    2018-04-02; 2018-05-08
RFE Reply(s) :    2018-04-25, 2018-05-22
I-129F NOA2 :    2018-06-04
NVC Received :    2018-06-21
Date Case #, IIN, 
and BIN assigned :    2018-06-21
NVC Left :        2018-07-10
Consulate Received :    2018-07-13
Packet 3 Received :    2018-07-31
Packet 3 Sent :    
Packet 4 Received :    
Interview Date :    2018-09-04    

CR1 Visa         APPROVED !!!!!!!!!!!

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I appreciate all your advice. I have spoken with her and yes she only likes foreign men unfortunately. She has had a very difficult life, first marriage at 40. Unfortunately, she fell into 2 relationships where hubby # 1 when and saw another woman and she was married for years with him, and hubby #2 was selfish and would never put into the home only sent money to his family and bought things for himself. He would say things that a husband shouldnt say to the woman he supposedly loved. She has a good career here and she is quite capable of providing.

Selling or renting the home she has now would be good, however she has her mother and child still here, so that is not an option at this moment. Yes she could join but she feels like she cant handle criticism right now because of her situation. Honestly she is an amazing woman, out going, charitable, hard working, loving, compassionate, just she picked men that thought marriage was a game. Despite the hurt they gave her she is still in contact with them and they make better friends rather than in a relationship.

Thank you all who answered, she is aware of the red flags and expects that but knowing her she will make this happen, she will fight and fight hard. I just want to see her happy and I truly believe that this time will be the last time she has to find someone who loves her more now than before.

it's good that she is aware of her options and the obstacles ahead.. but good luck to her

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Haiti
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Did you say the new guy is from Morocco? That's a really tough region to get a k-1 from even if the USC doesn't have any red flags. There's at least one poster who's husband came from Morocco and it took them like 5 years and multiple filings to get him here. The Moroccan embassy is not for the faint of heart and will require lots of relationship evidence.

The best thing she can do is to take her time... lots of time. She needs to finalize her divorce first. Moving quickly from divorce to engagement is something that would also have to be overcome. Next she needs to go spend as much time with him as possible. Face to face time is essential to most visa approvals and definitely helps the odds of a successful relationship. I'd also recommend taking a friend on one of the visits who she's willing to listen to even if she doesn't like the advice. We all understand that trips abroad are expensive and time consuming but they're essential to overcoming the red flags that she has. If I were her, I'd visit a couple more times before filing even if that meant filing a year or two from now. And she needs to figure out if she's emotionally ready to handle another long distance relationship. I'm sure the new guy is amazing but long distance and immigration can be extremely stressful.

K-1 from Haiti - NOA1: 5/27/2014; NOA2: 7/8 USCIS never updated to say that it was sent to the NVC (just in case you're as concerned about your status not updating as I was about mine)
NVC Case Number Received: 7/31; Left NVC: 8/1 - tracked via DHL website; CEAC Status - Ready: 8/7; Packet 3 Received: 9/5 - Beneficiary received packet / Medical Completed: 9/19;
DS-160 Submitted: 9/22 - (CEAC date updated); Packet 3 Submitted: 9/26; Packet 4 Received: 10/24; Interview Date: 11/6 @ 7 am Interview Result: Approved!
CEAC Status Issued: 11/10; USTraveldocs.com finally acknowledged Fiance's passport actually in their system: 11/20; Passport Received: 11/21;

POE: 11/23/2014; Wedding: 2/14/2015

AOS/EAD/AP Filed: 2/21/2015;

USCIS EAD & AP received: 2/25; USCIS AOS received: 2/27; Received NOA1s in mail: 3/5; Biometrics: 3/26; EAD/AP Card in Production: 5/11; EAD/AP Card Mailed: 5/1; EAD/AP Card Received 5/19; NPIW Letter dated: 6/11/15; Green card Approved: 10/1/15;

Green card Received: 10/7/15

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I concur with the poster above as well, plus I have some questions of my own as well. She needs to slow down realize what she needs to do for both herself and her child before she throws another person into the mix around the child. There are so many red flags on this case it is unbelievable. I do have a couple questions: does she always date Moroccan men, and does she understand the ramifications of what it means when you move to a ME country?

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