Endearment in Chats. Will this be a problem?

[Lezzyme1979 38]

Hello,

I'm putting together more evidence of ongoing relationship after the initial K1 process.

I came across some of my text from my fiancé, referring her as my wifey or my wife. We didn't get married when we were together, but I've read some thread that the interviewer denied the beneficiary because they saw on text that they call each other wife or husband even if they aren't married or have seen photos of the couple together that looks like a celebration or attending a wedding.

Anyway, my question is, should I not include that in the evidence? In the initial application, there was a text message exchange, I'm calling my fiancé is my wifey/wife and added I can't wait to marry you.

Or I am thinking too much into this?

[A'n'L 735]

I'm sure you can find examples of communication that does not use such 'red flag words". The consulate in Sweden is not so strict, but why risk it?

[Lezzyme1979 38]

That's true. You're right. I have taken the chat logs out that mentions about wifey and all but kept the ones where we talked about planning our wedding

Thank you for your quick response, greatly appreciate it

[baron555 934]

Hello,

I'm putting together more evidence of ongoing relationship after the initial K1 process.

I came across some of my text from my fiancé, referring her as my wifey or my wife.

That's bad. Don't include any of it.

We didn't get married when we were together, but I've read some thread that the interviewer denied the beneficiary because they saw on text that they call each other wife or husband even if they aren't married

Yep it has happened.

or have seen photos of the couple together that looks like a celebration or attending a wedding.

Happens a lot.

Anyway, my question is, should I not include that in the evidence? In the initial application, there was a text message exchange, I'm calling my fiancé is my wifey/wife and added I can't wait to marry you.

Do not include any of this.

Or I am thinking too much into this?

No, it's a problem.

[Pennycat 880]

You may not have to include chats at all. Do you have a lot of visits/ a lot of time together? Sweden is a pretty low risk country and unless you met and conducted most of your relationship online, the chats really won't show much. I think that people who are going for spousal visas and have lived apart for several years need to show them, but that's because they need to demonstrate a bona vide marriage as part of the visa process. You have to prove that you're legit, obviously, but not to the same degree.

[A'n'L 735]

You may not have to include chats at all. Do you have a lot of visits/ a lot of time together? Sweden is a pretty low risk country and unless you met and conducted most of your relationship online, the chats really won't show much. I think that people who are going for spousal visas and have lived apart for several years need to show them, but that's because they need to demonstrate a bona vide marriage as part of the visa process. You have to prove that you're legit, obviously, but not to the same degree.

They do ask for evidence of ongoing relationship at the interview in Sweden.

Obviously, you don't need extreme amounts.

Edited June 23, 2016 by A'n'L

[Pennycat 880]

They do ask for evidence of ongoing relationship at the interview in Sweden.

Obviously, you don't need extreme amounts.

Oh, I know they ask for evidence everywhere. Just unlike some tough places (or in some relationship circumstances), printing out chat logs is probably a bit much. Never hurts to bring it just in case, of course. If they've had a lot of facetime and can prove it and/or a lot of visits, generally just answering the question "how do you keep in touch and how frequently" with "WhatsApp and Skype, throughout the day/daily" or whatever you use/how frequently is likely enough. That's how it went for us, easy peasy no problem, and how it goes for lots of people. Proof of visits and facetime (tickets, photos) etc. pretty much answer the question of "is this a real relationship".

Now, under certain circumstances, when people met online, developed a relationship online, even become engaged online, only meeting once for a short period of time to fulfill the requirements of the visa? Yes. They will need chat logs, and a lot of them.

OP can do whatever he likes/ feels comfortable with/ makes sense for his circumstance. But the chat log level of scrutiny is probably not much of a concern for him, especially being a K1 from a VWP country.

[A'n'L 735]

Oh, I know they ask for evidence everywhere. Just unlike some tough places (or in some relationship circumstances), printing out chat logs is probably a bit much. Never hurts to bring it just in case, of course. If they've had a lot of facetime and can prove it and/or a lot of visits, generally just answering the question "how do you keep in touch and how frequently" with "WhatsApp and Skype, throughout the day/daily" or whatever you use/how frequently is likely enough. That's how it went for us, easy peasy no problem, and how it goes for lots of people. Proof of visits and facetime (tickets, photos) etc. pretty much answer the question of "is this a real relationship".

Now, under certain circumstances, when people met online, developed a relationship online, even become engaged online, only meeting once for a short period of time to fulfill the requirements of the visa? Yes. They will need chat logs, and a lot of them.

OP can do whatever he likes/ feels comfortable with/ makes sense for his circumstance. But the chat log level of scrutiny is probably not much of a concern for him, especially being a K1 from a VWP country.

Well, I interviewed in Sweden - and I'm telling you they want to see some sort of ongoing communication (eg chat log, phone record).

[Lezzyme1979 38]

Well, I interviewed in Sweden - and I'm telling you they want to see some sort of ongoing communication (eg chat log, phone record).

Thank you guys. I only include the chat logs that doesn't have a wifey endearment, just to be safe.

I greatly appreciate all you guy's input in our visa journey.

[thejusts 9]

Hi there - on this topic, what is an appropriate amount of chat (WhatsApp for us)? We filed in Jan and interview is next week. If my fiance prints a handful for each month, will that be ok? I also visited in April and we have all evidence for that.

[Unidentified 2,930]

Hi there - on this topic, what is an appropriate amount of chat (WhatsApp for us)? We filed in Jan and interview is next week. If my fiance prints a handful for each month, will that be ok? I also visited in April and we have all evidence for that.

How many months have you been in contact?

We had been together about 2 year when we sent in our application. We sent logs from here and there, not once a month. Just basically "highlights" of our conversations.

[Unidentified 2,930]

Oh, I know they ask for evidence everywhere. Just unlike some tough places (or in some relationship circumstances), printing out chat logs is probably a bit much. Never hurts to bring it just in case, of course. If they've had a lot of facetime and can prove it and/or a lot of visits, generally just answering the question "how do you keep in touch and how frequently" with "WhatsApp and Skype, throughout the day/daily" or whatever you use/how frequently is likely enough. That's how it went for us, easy peasy no problem, and how it goes for lots of people. Proof of visits and facetime (tickets, photos) etc. pretty much answer the question of "is this a real relationship".

Now, under certain circumstances, when people met online, developed a relationship online, even become engaged online, only meeting once for a short period of time to fulfill the requirements of the visa? Yes. They will need chat logs, and a lot of them.

OP can do whatever he likes/ feels comfortable with/ makes sense for his circumstance. But the chat log level of scrutiny is probably not much of a concern for him, especially being a K1 from a VWP country.

Printing out chat logs is definitely not too much. If you mainly communicate through hangouts, whats app whatever that is what you send in. You send in what you have. We have both lived together and been apart, we sent in chatlogs, photos etc.

[Scandi 3,970]

For the i-129f we sent two screenshots from every month we've been chatting/calling on skype since we met online about 8 months earlier. And now I'll take new screenshots from between NOA1 and up until the interview date. I wouldn't risk going to the interview without it when it's so easy to print and bring.

And for the OP; we have done the same at times, where my fiancé has called me wifey and stuff like that. We won't be taking any screenshots of that to the interview.

Good luck at the interview btw.

[p-ana 933]

Hi there - on this topic, what is an appropriate amount of chat (WhatsApp for us)? We filed in Jan and interview is next week. If my fiance prints a handful for each month, will that be ok? I also visited in April and we have all evidence for that.

I had little excerpts of conversations from the time we filed to the time of the interview printed and on hand the day of the interview but the officer at RDJ didn't want to see anything (I asked). I'd bring something just in case, but wouldn't worry much. Good luck!

[Lezzyme1979 38]

For the i-129f we sent two screenshots from every month we've been chatting/calling on skype since we met online about 8 months earlier. And now I'll take new screenshots from between NOA1 and up until the interview date. I wouldn't risk going to the interview without it when it's so easy to print and bring.

And for the OP; we have done the same at times, where my fiancé has called me wifey and stuff like that. We won't be taking any screenshots of that to the interview.

Good luck at the interview btw.

Yes, don't wanna risk it. Better safe than sorry.

I just didn't want them to give her a hard time during the interview.

Edited June 25, 2016 by Lezzyme1979