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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Hello,

I am a Canadian K-1 Visa holder in Florida who moved here November 28th and got married at the end of December. I haven’t sent in my Adjustment of Status application yet as the joint sponsor hasn't gotten the required information together (but that’s another story). The I-94 in my passport expires on February 26th.


I drove down to Florida with my car and made sure to import it properly at the border when crossing in November, so I have all the documentation to register it when the time comes. Currently the registration, plates, insurance and my driver’s license are still all from Ontario. I called my current insurance provider and they said I only have until the end of February for coverage since I permanently moved to the US.


This week I made an appointment at the local DMV office so I could get my Florida driver’s license and then obtain insurance and transfer the registration over. I went in with my current Canadian passport and I-94, SSN Card, Ontario driver’s license and two pieces of mail with my name on it. After reviewing the documents the lady at the counter told me, since my I-94 expires on Feb. 26, I would only be able to get a license valid until that date and she was unable to issue me a license. She said I would need to come back when I have obtained my green card or EAD to apply then. Not knowing any better I accepted that and left.


When I got home I did some reading online and saw there is a specific section for Canadian citizens when obtaining a driver’s license in FL. With the above documentation I should have been able to exchange the Canadian license for a 1 year FL license. I am planning on going back to the office but I just wanted to make sure that I am in the right here. Does the I-94 expiry or immigration status not matter at all if I am a Canadian citizen with a valid SSN? The list of documents states I can bring my birth certificate instead of passport. Should I just bring that in to avoid confusion and they don't see the I-94?


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Do not take no for an answer! I had the same thing happen, I took marriage certificate, canadian passport, SSN....I explained multiple times that I'm permanent in usa and applied for a green card. The I-94 confuses them don't even show it. I would suggest trying another DMV and asking for a manager that is familiar with Canadians. I live in Florida myself so I went through the exact dog and pony show. Just go back minus the I-94 you are legally entitled to have a florida license.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Thanks for the reply! I wish I had known all this beforehand but I really wasn't thinking there would be an issue.

Since that DMV office is a 5 min walk from home I'll give them another try before going to another. This time I will hand them my birth certificate instead of passport and let them know I am a Canadian Citizen looking to exchange my license.

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The explanation you read about Canadians getting Florida licenses is for snow birds I believe BUT if it helps you to get what you need then take it and run with it! It isn't really for those of us who are immigrating. But if it works, great!!

I know when I went to get my license they had different information depending on who I asked. I even wound up having to take a driving test!!

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2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
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2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
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2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
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2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
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2013-01-28: ALL 3 OF OUR CASES ARE NOW COMPLETE
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2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
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2013-03-12: Paid USCIS Immigrant Fee 2014-12-24: Received Biometrics Appointment Letter 2016-01-02: Biometrics Letter 2016-01-11: Biometrics
2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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To update, I went back and mentioned right away that I am a Canadian citizen, both the secretary AND the clerk this time were familiar with the process and let me know there are two options as a Canadian citizen:

1. Take a driving test and keep my current Canadian license as well as be issued a 1-year FL license.

2. Surrender my Canadian license and no driving test is needed for the 1-year FL license to be issued.

I decided to surrender my license and not take the test. I asked if I could have the Ontario license back, but invalidated, and that was no issue as well. They only clipped off the corner, so now I can send that back to ServiceOntario for a refund.

It took about an hour of questions and waiting at the kiosk but the license was finally issued. At first I only presented my birth certificate though the clerk eventually did ask to see my passport, which then caused him to have to go ask another employee for help. He came back saying "I was trying to make this too complicated, it's actually really simple". I'm assuming after taking note of the I-94 inside :rolleyes:.

Anyway, now I was able to get insurance (I had to order a copy of my Canadian abstract to lower the premium) and I am in the process of registering my car here. That process is going to be more expensive than what I thought unfortunately but I will be glad to have all this stuff over with!

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Hello,
I am a Canadian K-1 Visa holder in Florida who moved here November 28th and got married at the end of December. I haven’t sent in my Adjustment of Status application yet as the joint sponsor hasn't gotten the required information together (but that’s another story). The I-94 in my passport expires on February 26th.
I drove down to Florida with my car and made sure to import it properly at the border when crossing in November, so I have all the documentation to register it when the time comes. Currently the registration, plates, insurance and my driver’s license are still all from Ontario. I called my current insurance provider and they said I only have until the end of February for coverage since I permanently moved to the US.
This week I made an appointment at the local DMV office so I could get my Florida driver’s license and then obtain insurance and transfer the registration over. I went in with my current Canadian passport and I-94, SSN Card, Ontario driver’s license and two pieces of mail with my name on it. After reviewing the documents the lady at the counter told me, since my I-94 expires on Feb. 26, I would only be able to get a license valid until that date and she was unable to issue me a license. She said I would need to come back when I have obtained my green card or EAD to apply then. Not knowing any better I accepted that and left.
When I got home I did some reading online and saw there is a specific section for Canadian citizens when obtaining a driver’s license in FL. With the above documentation I should have been able to exchange the Canadian license for a 1 year FL license. I am planning on going back to the office but I just wanted to make sure that I am in the right here. Does the I-94 expiry or immigration status not matter at all if I am a Canadian citizen with a valid SSN? The list of documents states I can bring my birth certificate instead of passport. Should I just bring that in to avoid confusion and they don't see the I-94?

Yeah...if you happened to go back...try another location.

Whether its DMV or SSA office, it seems people have different experience

in differently states (certainly), but with different local location or personnel in the same location.

There must be grey understanding and we are at the mercy of their interpretation.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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To update, I went back and mentioned right away that I am a Canadian citizen, both the secretary AND the clerk this time were familiar with the process and let me know there are two options as a Canadian citizen:

1. Take a driving test and keep my current Canadian license as well as be issued a 1-year FL license.

2. Surrender my Canadian license and no driving test is needed for the 1-year FL license to be issued.

I decided to surrender my license and not take the test. I asked if I could have the Ontario license back, but invalidated, and that was no issue as well. They only clipped off the corner, so now I can send that back to ServiceOntario for a refund.

It took about an hour of questions and waiting at the kiosk but the license was finally issued. At first I only presented my birth certificate though the clerk eventually did ask to see my passport, which then caused him to have to go ask another employee for help. He came back saying "I was trying to make this too complicated, it's actually really simple". I'm assuming after taking note of the I-94 inside :rolleyes:.

Anyway, now I was able to get insurance (I had to order a copy of my Canadian abstract to lower the premium) and I am in the process of registering my car here. That process is going to be more expensive than what I thought unfortunately but I will be glad to have all this stuff over with!

That's great news!!

USCIS - 40 DAYS
2012-10-30: FedEx delivered I-130 to Chicago Lockbox Mail Room
2012-11-01: NOA1 by email - MSC
2012-11-02: $420 (x3) debited from our account
2012-11-05: NOA1 hard copies received, Priority Date 2012-10-30
2012-12-11: NOA2


NVC - 26 DAYS
2013-01-02: Rec'd case#, IIN, BIN & OPTIN emails for EP sent
2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
2013-01-08: IV bill invoiced & paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV bill appears as paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (kids only)
2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
2013-01-11: IV bill invoiced & paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
2013-01-18: IV Supporting Docs received for me - notified by email
2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
2013-01-25: My CASE COMPLETE
2013-01-28: ALL 3 OF OUR CASES ARE NOW COMPLETE
2013-02-06: Packet 4 Received by email

MEDICAL ~ CONSULATE ~ POE REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS - 160 DAYS NATURALIZATION
2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
2013-03-08: Visas in-hand 2014-12-22: Received NOA1 by mail. Receipt Date: 2014-12-17 2015-12-17: NOA
2013-03-12: Paid USCIS Immigrant Fee 2014-12-24: Received Biometrics Appointment Letter 2016-01-02: Biometrics Letter 2016-01-11: Biometrics
2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
2013-03-25: SSNs arrived 2015-05-27: Approved 2016-03-22: Interview
2013-04-01: Green Cards arrived 2015-06-03: New Green Cards arrived 2016-04-15: Oath Ceremony

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Hello,
I am a Canadian K-1 Visa holder in Florida who moved here November 28th and got married at the end of December. I haven’t sent in my Adjustment of Status application yet as the joint sponsor hasn't gotten the required information together (but that’s another story). The I-94 in my passport expires on February 26th.
I drove down to Florida with my car and made sure to import it properly at the border when crossing in November, so I have all the documentation to register it when the time comes. Currently the registration, plates, insurance and my driver’s license are still all from Ontario. I called my current insurance provider and they said I only have until the end of February for coverage since I permanently moved to the US.
This week I made an appointment at the local DMV office so I could get my Florida driver’s license and then obtain insurance and transfer the registration over. I went in with my current Canadian passport and I-94, SSN Card, Ontario driver’s license and two pieces of mail with my name on it. After reviewing the documents the lady at the counter told me, since my I-94 expires on Feb. 26, I would only be able to get a license valid until that date and she was unable to issue me a license. She said I would need to come back when I have obtained my green card or EAD to apply then. Not knowing any better I accepted that and left.
When I got home I did some reading online and saw there is a specific section for Canadian citizens when obtaining a driver’s license in FL. With the above documentation I should have been able to exchange the Canadian license for a 1 year FL license. I am planning on going back to the office but I just wanted to make sure that I am in the right here. Does the I-94 expiry or immigration status not matter at all if I am a Canadian citizen with a valid SSN? The list of documents states I can bring my birth certificate instead of passport. Should I just bring that in to avoid confusion and they don't see the I-94?

The exact same thing happened to me when I went into the DMV..I live in a small town outside of Buffalo. I ended up going to a different DMV office and they finally took my license and issued a temporary new one. The photo on it was only valid for the time of my K1 visa but the actual license was good until 2017. Once I received my conditional green card I took it to the DMV and they changed the wording on the license and issued a permanent license. They had to call someone in NYC because they had so little experience on how to do this.

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GC-Date: Resident Since 02/13/2013

Sent: N-400 Sent 12/21/2015
NOA: 12/24/2015

Biometrics: 01/20/2016
In Line: 01/25/2016
Int Ltr: 01/28/2016
Interview: 03/08/2016
Oath: 04/14/2016
Field Office: Buffalo NY

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