I'm so lost.. really need help pls!!!!

[USAUSA 1]

Hi there,

I'm a US Citizen sponsoring my husband in Thailand. (CR1 DCF) We got an approval notice from USCIS on 12/17/2014.

I also Petition for my sister in 2010. We just got an approved letter from NVC on 11/19/2014.

Due to the situation, I'm so confuse of what to do next!! Since I'm not working in US and I can't find a joint sponsor. Should I take care of my husband's case first, so we both can show an income for my sister once we're working in US? Will my sister's case expired?

Anyway I was looking up online on Instruction Package for IV Packets 3. (CR1 DCF) It's seems like the consular want us to submit all the documents before set up an interview date. (Include evidence of financial support.) Can I submit it without an affidavit of support? What is a time line? Will the consular give us sometime to find a joint sponsor?

Worst come to worst, I'll show my assets in US and Thailand. I'm not so sure If I understand correctly? Due to poverty guidelines 2014, 125% of poverty guidelines for sponsor's household size of 2 is 19,662. In that case we need to prove assets valued at 3x the different for sponsor of spouse. Is it ok to have a little bit above $58,986? ($19,662 x 3) Something like 60k?

Right now I don't have 60k in US bank account., but I plan to show 30k. I also got a piece of land that worth about 10k in US. That's all I got in US.

I also have 3 pieces of land in Thailand and also a house. Will it help if I get them appraised? Also stock worth about 12k. I don't know If assets that base outside US will work with US Consular in Thailand. Anybody have an experience on this?

Any advice and suggestion would be greatly appreciated. We really needed it!!!

[Ning 619]

Hi there,

I'm a US Citizen sponsoring my husband in Thailand. (CR1 DCF) We got an approval notice from USCIS on 12/17/2014.

I also Petition for my sister in 2010. We just got an approved letter from NVC on 11/19/2014.

Due to the situation, I'm so confuse of what to do next!! Since I'm not working in US and I can't find a joint sponsor. Should I take care of my husband's case first, so we both can show an income for my sister once we're working in US? Will my sister's case expired?

Anyway I was looking up online on Instruction Package for IV Packets 3. (CR1 DCF) It's seems like the consular want us to submit all the documents before set up an interview date. (Include evidence of financial support.) Can I submit it without an affidavit of support? What is a time line? Will the consular give us sometime to find a joint sponsor?

Worst come to worst, I'll show my assets in US and Thailand. I'm not so sure If I understand correctly? Due to poverty guidelines 2014, 125% of poverty guidelines for sponsor's household size of 2 is 19,662. In that case we need to prove assets valued at 3x the different for sponsor of spouse. Is it ok to have a little bit above $58,986? ($19,662 x 3) Something like 60k?

Right now I don't have 60k in US bank account., but I plan to show 30k. I also got a piece of land that worth about 10k in US. That's all I got in US.

I also have 3 pieces of land in Thailand and also a house. Will it help if I get them appraised? Also stock worth about 12k. I don't know If assets that base outside US will work with US Consular in Thailand. Anybody have an experience on this?

Any advice and suggestion would be greatly appreciated. We really needed it!!!

You can submit everything except the 864 but they may not set an interview date until they have that important info. You could tell them it will be hand carried. Of course if anything is questioned they will not issue the visa and put the case in A P status. Once they have the info they need the case will proceed which may take weeks or months.

I suggest finding a joint sponsor to have if you need them. You have many months to obtain one. If needed the embassy would hold the case for a time to allow you to find one I think. I know of one case where this was done.

Assets must be liquid so your land wont be accepted. Same with assets in Thailand. Don't waste time or money on an appraisal.

Stock isnt going to be accepted; sell it and deposit the cash.

[Boiler 43,430]

Forget about the sister, she is many many years away.

Often the USC comes first and gets a job.

[USAUSA 1]

Thank you so much Ning. I didn't know that the land in US doesn't count. In that case I need to sell it. A joint sponsor isn't easy to find but I'm working on it. The last option would be go back to US and find a job. Do you know the period that I need to work there? Is 6 months enough?

Thank you Boiler.

[USAUSA 1]

Just curious. Can I use a joint sponsor for my sister? Thank you.

[Boiler 43,430]

If you need to yes.

[USAUSA 1]

If you need to yes.

Thank you.

[j&ana 363]

If i were you I would either try to find a joint sponsor,or go to usa and get a job.I do not think you have to be working for a certain amount of time,as long as you can provide proof of steady income.Also it will help prove domicile.you mention having land and money in the usa.That does not really proves domicile as you did not mention having a home in the usa. Moving back to Usa you will have more proof of that also.

[Ning 619]

Thank you so much Ning. I didn't know that the land in US doesn't count. In that case I need to sell it. A joint sponsor isn't easy to find but I'm working on it. The last option would be go back to US and find a job. Do you know the period that I need to work there? Is 6 months enough?

Thank you Boiler.

Its all about you showing how you will support him in the future. In our case my husband lived in Thailand for two years. He found a job in the USA 4 months before I interviewed so he showed that income.

You don't have to have a house in the USA to be domiciled in the USA. Read up on this aspect. Your land or any other U S address may be all you need.

[USAUSA 1]

If i were you I would either try to find a joint sponsor,or go to usa and get a job.I do not think you have to be working for a certain amount of time,as long as you can provide proof of steady income.Also it will help prove domicile.you mention having land and money in the usa.That does not really proves domicile as you did not mention having a home in the usa. Moving back to Usa you will have more proof of that also.

Thank you so much j&ana.

[j&ana 363]

Yes you not need house I meant to type place of residence.I do not think land is consider place of residence. unless there is some kind of housing on it. A lot of people have land other then where they reside at.It does not mean they are going to live there,having land helps but it is

weak evidence.Also having a bank account helps.that also does not prove on it own that the op is going to live in usa. Are them two things enough? I do not know what else the op has in the usa.However if she decides to move back to usa she will have that taken care of too perhaps you should read up on it more also

definition of domicile the place where a sponsor has his or her principal residence and intention of maintaining

that residence. Land by itself is not consider a principal residence

[USAUSA 1]

Its all about you showing how you will support him in the future. In our case my husband lived in Thailand for two years. He found a job in the USA 4 months before I interviewed so he showed that income.

You don't have to have a house in the USA to be domiciled in the USA. Read up on this aspect. Your land or any other U S address may be all you need.

Thank you so much once again Ning. I'll consider that. Moving back is my last option but I'll If I have to. Right now I've all my mail send to my friend's address. She said that I got a voting card which it's going to help. The reason I didn't sell the land so I can use it to be domiciled. Also hoping to count as an assets..

I saw people saying about writing up some 6 months plan. Would help a lot If I could have some guideline or sample since I've no idea about how to write it.

[USAUSA 1]

Yes you not need house I meant to type place of residence.I do not think land is consider place of residence. unless there is some kind of housing on it. A lot of people have land other then where they reside at.It does not mean they are going to live there,having land helps but it is

weak evidence.Also having a bank account helps.that also does not prove on it own that the op is going to live in usa. Are them two things enough? I do not know what else the op has in the usa.However if she decides to move back to usa she will have that taken care of too perhaps you should read up on it more also

definition of domicile the place where a sponsor has his or her principal residence and intention of maintaining

that residence. Land by itself is not consider a principal residence

Thank you j&ana. I'll consider that. I would love to move back before my husband but I got some health issue that my husband's concern. He is the one who doesn't want me to move back by myself. Like I said for us that would be our last option due to my health We will continue looking for a joint sponsor. I also put the land in Thailand for sell which should be enough to get us to the minimum require which is about 60 k.

Thank you for your advice. I really appreciated.

[j&ana 363]

Thank you j&ana. I'll consider that. I would love to move back before my husband but I got some health issue that my husband's concern. He is the one who doesn't want me to move back by myself. Like I said for us that would be our last option due to my health We will continue looking for a joint sponsor. I also put the land in Thailand for sell which should be enough to get us to the minimum require which is about 60 k.

Thank you for your advice. I really appreciated.

I did not know that. In that case finding a joint sponsor will be best, or like you posted if you have enough cash . I hope everything will be good for you and your husband. Edited January 18, 2015 by j&ana

[Ning 619]

Yes you not need house I meant to type place of residence.I do not think land is consider place of residence. unless there is some kind of housing on it. A lot of people have land other then where they reside at.It does not mean they are going to live there,having land helps but it is

weak evidence.Also having a bank account helps.that also does not prove on it own that the op is going to live in usa. Are them two things enough? I do not know what else the op has in the usa.However if she decides to move back to usa she will have that taken care of too perhaps you should read up on it more also

definition of domicile the place where a sponsor has his or her principal residence and intention of maintaining

that residence. Land by itself is not consider a principal residence

This from international tax attorneys:

Most states in the United States define “residency” based on a person’s “domicile.” Domicile, in general, is the place which an individual intends to be his or her permanent home and to which such individual intends to return whenever absent.

An individual can only have one domicile at a time. Once a person acquires a domicile, he/she retains that domicile until another is acquired. A change of domicile requires: 1) abandonment of a prior domicile, 2) physically moving to and residing in the new locality, and 3) intent to remain in the new locality permanently or indefinitely. If a person moves to a new location but intends to stay there only a limited time (no matter how long), their domicile does not change.

Domicile is not dependent on citizenship. However, a United States citizen shall not ordinarily be deemed to have changed domicile by going to a foreign country unless it is clearly shown that such individual intends to remain there permanently.

So when this is read its clear that domicile is not simply a principal residence nor does she really need one. There is a lot of info about this here on V J.