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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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I just checked my case status at uscis.gov and it is reporting that the petition was denied and that I will receive a letter at some point explaining why. From what I've read, these letters are not often particularly helpful.

I received an RFE on October 10th which stated that we need to supply "corrected filled out and signed" G325As as the ones we submitted were incorrect. They did not elaborate on the errors, but we found minor ones, corrected and sent them off. They were received October 30th.

Logically, it seems to me that the updated G325a forms must still be incorrect in their eyes, no? If there were something else wrong with the application which results in an actual denial (ie. not a technicality), this could have been done on October 10th - what I mean is, they wouldn't care if the G325 forms were incorrect if it turned out there was some serious problem.

I did have to write asking for a multiple filing waiver - previous fiances came in 1998 (Canada) and 2011 (Europe), and obviously both marriages are ended. I would imagine that if this were the basis for the denial, that could have been done on October 10th, why would they care about the G325 forms at this point.

Is it possible one of us failed a background check of some sort? Any other ideas? From what I've read of the appeal process, it seems best just to re-file.

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I just checked my case status at uscis.gov and it is reporting that the petition was denied and that I will receive a letter at some point explaining why. From what I've read, these letters are not often particularly helpful.

I received an RFE on October 10th which stated that we need to supply "corrected filled out and signed" G325As as the ones we submitted were incorrect. They did not elaborate on the errors, but we found minor ones, corrected and sent them off. They were received October 30th.

Logically, it seems to me that the updated G325a forms must still be incorrect in their eyes, no? If there were something else wrong with the application which results in an actual denial (ie. not a technicality), this could have been done on October 10th - what I mean is, they wouldn't care if the G325 forms were incorrect if it turned out there was some serious problem.

I did have to write asking for a multiple filing waiver - previous fiances came in 1998 (Canada) and 2011 (Europe), and obviously both marriages are ended. I would imagine that if this were the basis for the denial, that could have been done on October 10th, why would they care about the G325 forms at this point.

Is it possible one of us failed a background check of some sort? Any other ideas? From what I've read of the appeal process, it seems best just to re-file.

Honestly your best bet is to marry and file for CR-1 spousal visa. No mucking about with waiver issues if you do that.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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CR-1 is definitely a possible alternative, but I still can't help coming to the conclusion that if they denied the multiple filing waiver, that would have been done instead of sending out the RFE.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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was this waiver needed?

i thought it was needed if one applied for two I-129Fs in a 2 year period. you've not done that.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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was this waiver needed?

i thought it was needed if one applied for two I-129Fs in a 2 year period. you've not done that.

There's a lifetime limit of two K1s, that's why.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Nigeria
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There's a lifetime limit of two K1s, that's why.

Denial letters at this level tell why pretty much. I think you are referring to Denials at the embassy level that people sometime never know why they are denied.

Just wait for the letter and then decide.

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: China
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I filed 2 k-1's the 2nd one I withdrew. I did the CR1 and took me 18 months to get her here. She is now a US citizen. You may need an attorney to file for you. I found out later they never accepted my cancellation of the 2nd k-1.

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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You were correct in sending a multiple filing waiver because this is your 3. K1 petition. I don't think the denial has to do with the waiver request though.

Did your fiance sign the G325a form and did you send the original or a copy ?

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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I sent in an original, signed by her. There was a memo referenced on this website which instructs USCIS staff to waive the requirement for a signed G325 by the beneficiary, and others have confirm this, but as that memo was many years ago (2005 IIRC), I chose to spend the extra few days waiting for a signed copy to come from her.

The only mistakes we found on our G325s were:

1) Originally we wrote "K-1 Visa" as the "form is submitted in connection" form. I updated this to I-129F.

2) Her name at the bottom box of hers was written in Cyrillic letters - a complete brain fart for both of us - I think we saw "write in the native alphabet" above and just continued doing so.

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Hate to point the oh so obvious, but constantly worrying and questioning won't make a bit of difference.

No one here can tell you why you were denied, no one here can give you insight because no one knows for sure except for csc.

Just stop fretting and wait for the hard copy.

Then once you know you can ask for help if you don't know how to proceed.

But constant questions over a denial that you don't know the reason for and asking people who won't know the reason won't help.

Just calm down, and wait.

A denial is not the end of the road.

There are options and ways to continue but you first must find out what went wrong and that means waiting for the hard copy.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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Cody and Daisy, I'm not freaked out at all, just enjoying some wild speculation while waiting (impatiently) for the formal letter. I thought someone with similar issues (which aren't really red flags, but certainly make the case more complicated than never-married, childless boy meets never-married childless girl) might have had some experiences with USCIS which could be instructive.

Besides, what else are you going to do while waiting other than speculate? :)

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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Besides, what else are you going to do while waiting other than speculate? :)

oh, sometimes folk get on a PC and use the advanced search tool here. If the date blocker was successfully removed, then you can get a lot of stuff from using it.

[this is not the google search bar, fwiw]

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
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Cody and Daisy, I'm not freaked out at all, just enjoying some wild speculation while waiting (impatiently) for the formal letter. I thought someone with similar issues (which aren't really red flags, but certainly make the case more complicated than never-married, childless boy meets never-married childless girl) might have had some experiences with USCIS which could be instructive.

Besides, what else are you going to do while waiting other than speculate? :)

Like above, the search bar is useful for previous topics on the same matter.

It could be anything, but mistakes usually warrant an RFE.

There's no point trying to question what it is until you know because everyone's case is different.

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NOA1: 20/03/2014

NOA2: 11/04/2014 (22 days)

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D.O.E 29/07/2014

Married 29/08/2014

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AOS/EAD/AP Sent: 12/11/2014

Delivered at Chicago LB:15/11/2014

NOA1 (all 3): 17/11/2014

NOA1 (all 3) hardcopy: 24/11/2014(Notice date 20th)

Bio-metrics App letter: 28/11/2014(Notice date 21st)

Bio-metrics App Cleveland Ohio: 10/12/2014

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Combo Card: Delivered 6/2/2015AP

NOA: Approval Notice received 7/2/2015

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Kenya
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There's a lifetime limit of two K1s, that's why.

Wrong

Phil (Lockport, near Chicago) and Alla (Lobnya, near Moscow)

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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There's a lifetime limit of two K1s, that's why.

That is totally false.

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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