confused please explain

[Sveta & Ron 23]

the cbp told sveta and I this past summer that next summer sveta can apply for citizenship since we would be married 3 years. cbp also stated sveta can have duo-citizenship with ukraine and when we question him about ukraine as rule not allow his reply was " the relationship with both countries ukraine will allow duo-citizenship with the usa " , but when I read the department of state website about it it is allowed. But on the n-400 app I read ( I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate,

state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; )

sveta not want give up ukraine so any advice?

[JimmyHou 610]

the cbp told sveta and I this past summer that next summer sveta can apply for citizenship since we would be married 3 years. cbp also stated sveta can have duo-citizenship with ukraine and when we question him about ukraine as rule not allow his reply was " the relationship with both countries ukraine will allow duo-citizenship with the usa " , but when I read the department of state website about it it is allowed. But on the n-400 app I read ( I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate,

state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; )

sveta not want give up ukraine so any advice?

The U.S. does not recognize dual citizenship and only considers you to be a US citizen.

However they don't care if you have another passport or if other countries consider you a citizen.

They will not take away your Ukrainian passport but they require you to sweat that you will be loyal to the U.S.

You just need to check the Ukrainian laws. If the Ukraine allows you to have two citizenships then you'll be fine.

[Sveta & Ron 23]

The U.S. does not recognize dual citizenship and only considers you to be a US citizen.

However they don't care if you have another passport or if other countries consider you a citizen.

They will not take away your Ukrainian passport but they require you to sweat that you will be loyal to the U.S.

You just need to check the Ukrainian laws. If the Ukraine allows you to have two citizenships then you'll be fine.

per dos website

http://travel.state.gov/content/travel/english/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/citizenship-and-dual-nationality/dual-nationality.html

the U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. nationals may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist nationals abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person's allegiance.

Edited November 24, 2014 by Sveta & Ron

[Ian H. 207]

As long as Ukraine recognizes her dual citizenship, she won't lose her Ukrainian citizenship. The US only requires that you renounce your allegiance, not your citizenship. Therefore, as long as Ukraine still considers her to be a citizen of their country after having become a citizen of another country, she can have a passport for each.

I for example still retain my Dominican citizenship and can renew my Dominican passport if I choose to. Sometimes it's convenient to renew the passport from your home country after being a USC if it is required to reenter your country or if you ever want to travel to a country with different visa requirements. For example, the only time I thought about renewing my Dominican passport was when I wanted to travel to Brazil, because unlike American citizens, Dominican citizens pay a much lower visa fee.

So, if Ukraine requires her to reenter with their passport, she would keep that in mind, but remember that when she becomes a USC she always have to reenter the US with her US passport.

[JimmyHou 610]

per dos website

http://travel.state.gov/content/travel/english/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/citizenship-and-dual-nationality/dual-nationality.html

the U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. nationals may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist nationals abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person's allegiance.

Yes that link has all the necessary information. I'm not sure what your question is.

As I said, US law does not recognize dual citizenship. But it doesn't disallow it either. So as you said, the US government doesn't really act on it one way or the other.

From the link you posted: "U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one nationality or another."

As I said, there is no problem with US law. You just need to see if the Ukraine allows you to have two nationalities or not. If not the Ukraine (not the US) will take away the Ukrainian nationality.

Edited November 24, 2014 by JimmyHou

[Boiler 43,359]

No idea how it works in Ukraine but from a UK perspective I have never had to make such a declaration so it is meaningless.

Perhaps if I had been Knighted?

[Boiler 43,359]

PS looks like earliest you could file is May 2016

[kzielu 1,144]

the cbp told sveta and I this past summer that next summer sveta can apply for citizenship since we would be married 3 years.

Thing they probably didn't mention is she needs to be a resident for 3 years (-90 days). See Boiler's post above.

[OlenkaKyiv 3]

Ukraine does not allow a dual citizenship. Under the Ukrainian law, a person loses his/her Ukrainian citizenship upon obtaining a foreign citizenship. The enforcement of this provision, however, is in a way mute, since termination of the citizenship does not happen automatically. The termination begins from the date of a decree from the President of Ukraine, i.e. the termination happens in a rare instances. That is why Ukrainian oligarchs have dual, triple etc. citizenship without any problem. It wouldn't be a surprise to know that over million of Ukrainians have a dual citizenship.

[EM_Vandaveer 2,363]

Ukraine does not allow a dual citizenship. Under the Ukrainian law, a person loses his/her Ukrainian citizenship upon obtaining a foreign citizenship. The enforcement of this provision, however, is in a way mute, since termination of the citizenship does not happen automatically. The termination begins from the date of a decree from the President of Ukraine, i.e. the termination happens in a rare instances. That is why Ukrainian oligarchs have dual, triple etc. citizenship without any problem. It wouldn't be a surprise to know that over million of Ukrainians have a dual citizenship.

Yes, the USA won't tell Ukraine. So just keep it hush-hush over there.