IR1 questions, NVC stage

[lirpa11 16]

Hello

My husband and I are at the stage to submit our I-864 and IV packet. I have what may be a few silly questions.... Please help?

1) do we receive any paperwork regarding these or do I just post it off from what I find on the net? For the I-864 I use the cover sheet from online payment system, and submit with our evidence and the completed I864 form, u and for the IV packet I just send my husbands birth certificate, police clearance, marriage certificate etc? I've seen something about a checklist but never received one and a bit confused.

2) for the I-864, do I list our Australian address on it as residence and postal address and just attach a cover letter regarding steps we have taken to reestablish domicile? Or do I need to list a US address (my family's address) so they have a usa residence on file? I've read you must show domicile is in the USa (or show we intend to reestablish domicile) however I don't see this question in black and white on the I864 form.

3) my husband has applied for the federal police clearance. I haven't read anywhere that he needed the fingerprint check, so we went with the basic full federal police clearance. will this be knocked back as wrong?

I'm just a bit confused on these items, and not entirely sure if I understand it right.

[stephen.marlow 0]

Hello

My husband and I are at the stage to submit our I-864 and IV packet. I have what may be a few silly questions.... Please help?

1) do we receive any paperwork regarding these or do I just post it off from what I find on the net? For the I-864 I use the cover sheet from online payment system, and submit with our evidence and the completed I864 form, u and for the IV packet I just send my husbands birth certificate, police clearance, marriage certificate etc? I've seen something about a checklist but never received one and a bit confused.

2) for the I-864, do I list our Australian address on it as residence and postal address and just attach a cover letter regarding steps we have taken to reestablish domicile? Or do I need to list a US address (my family's address) so they have a usa residence on file? I've read you must show domicile is in the USa (or show we intend to reestablish domicile) however I don't see this question in black and white on the I864 form.

3) my husband has applied for the federal police clearance. I haven't read anywhere that he needed the fingerprint check, so we went with the basic full federal police clearance. will this be knocked back as wrong?

I'm just a bit confused on these items, and not entirely sure if I understand it right.

These are not silly questions. Welcome to the ambiguous process. I understand your confusion!

1) not sure what is meant by "find on the net" however you do need to send your supporting docs in with the barcode cover sheet. The cover sheet goes on top, then a cover letter that explains certain things that may not be straight forward such as your domicile situation, then all the supporting docs. I sent both the I-864 and the IV Application with their respective barcode cover sheets printed at time of paying the fee. Min had instructions to send supporitng docs with those barcode cover sheets but about 3 or 4 weeks later, I got an email saying to send in supporting docs with the attached checklist. There are so many conflicts of information through this process. So anyway, I just sent mine off with the Barcode coversheets and I have recevied notification that it has been received. It takes 60 days to begin assessing. Ugh!

2) The sponsor does absoutly have to have domicile in the US or at least prove intention to reestablish domicile. It is highlighted in the I-864 instructions. Here is the relevant section:

Item Number 5. Country of Domicile.

This question is asking you to indicate the country where you maintain your principal residence and where you plan to reside for the foreseeable future. If your mailing address and/or place of residence is not in the United States, but your country of domicile is the United States, you must attach a written explanation and documentary evidence indicating how you meet the domicile requirement. If you are not currently living in the United States, you may meet the domicile requirement if you can submit evidence to establish that any of the following conditions apply:

1. You are employed by a certain organization.

Some individuals employed overseas are automatically considered to be domiciled in the United States because of the nature of their employment. The qualifying types of employment include employment by:

a. The U.S. government;

b. An American institution of research recognized by the Secretary of Homeland Security (the list of qualifying

institutions may be found at 8 CFR 316.20);

Form I-864 Instructions 03/22/13 N Page 3 of 13

c. A U.S. firm or corporation engaged in whole or in part in the development of foreign trade and commerce with the United States, or a subsidiary of such a firm or corporation;

d. A public international organization in which the United States participates by treaty or statute;

e. A religious denomination having a bona fide organization in the United States, if the employment abroad involves

the person's performance of priestly or ministerial functions on behalf of the denomination; or

f. A religious denomination or interdenominational missionary organization having a bona fide organization in the United States, if the person is engaged solely as a missionary.

2. You are living abroad temporarily

If you are not currently living in the United States, you must show that your trip abroad is temporary and that you have maintained your domicile in the United States. You can show this by providing proof of your voting record in the United States, proof of paying U.S. State or local taxes, proof of having property in the United States, proof of maintaining bank or investment accounts in the United States, or proof of having a permanent mailing address in the United States. Other proof could be evidence that you are a student studying abroad or that a foreign government has authorized a temporary stay.

3. You intend in good faith to reestablish your domicile in the United States no later then the date of the intending immigrant's admission or adjustment of status

You must submit proof that you have taken concrete steps to establish that you will be domiciled in the United States at a time no later than the date of the intending immigrant's admission or adjustment of status. Concrete steps might include accepting a job in the United States, signing a lease or purchasing a residence in the United States, or registering children in U.S. schools. Please attach proof of the steps you have taken to establish domicile as described above.

So, do a bit of a search to see what other people have submitted as evidence for intention to reestablishing domicile in the US. They suggest having a US postal address for quick postage but really, they communicat everything via email with me so it made no difference with communication.

3) there is mass confusion with the fingerprint and name v's name check only. On the consulate website it clearly states name check only is ok and applicants who have submitted name check only have had it accepted. I think the confusion here is that the Aussie police certificates are a national search and so the NVC thinks it's a state only search like most other countries, and so they send checklists for other states where the applicant has lived but they are unnecessary and unobtainable. The checklist asks for a fingerprint search to be done but I believe it's just old policy wording as fingerprints are no longer required. Make sure he includes his middle name in the police check.

FYI - I have only just submitted my supporting docs and they have not been assessed yet. I'm no way near through it yet and so my advise is based on the experience of others and the research I've done.

Good luck!

[lirpa11 16]

Thanks, I've seen information on here about a checklist so I wasn't sure if I was supposed to have received one or not. I was referring to the I864 for when I mentioned what I find on the net. I'll send in all of our evidence for assets, bank accounts etc and add in the barcode sheet and covering letter.

As for domicile, I have the following, and i have seen what other people have submitted so I think we will be fine:

- enquiries on how we can rent a property in the usa (since we won't have work quite yet)

- enquiries on shipping a container from perth Australia to savannah georgia usa with a car and personal belongings

- details of a booking for our dog to fly in January from perth Australia to Atlanta Georgia, this has been booked and the deposit paid. We just need to pay the balance within two weeks of flying and confirm the final date

- a letter from family that we are able to stay at their house should we need if we can't secure a rental straight away

- corrospondence with a real estate agent regarding selling our main residence here in Australia

- corrospondence in relation to renting out an investment property long term in Australia

- I haven't done this yet, but I think I will contact recruiters or someone there to discuss the best way to get a job, resumes etc...

1) I was just unsure if we need to actually LIST a USA address, or if I can list only our Aussie address on the form. What have you put on yours?

I read a ton of threads on the police check, and I thought the name check would suffice, but some individuals said they only accept the fingerprint ones so I was worried if we did it right.... Argh. Looks like we should be ok then, thanks.

Just waiting on the police clearance and the asset valuations to come back and we can send our packets off then! Hope it goes quick

2) So with the IV packet, it's just the barcode cover sheet and all of the beneficiaries original documents (birth cert, marriage cert, police check, etc per the wiki link on here). There's not a form to be completed and sent?

3) and lastly, did you send both together and just different envelopes with attn to the relevant departments?