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Ok we have a strange situation which we need help on.

Details:

Beneficiary is Filipino

Previously married

Divorce was final 05March, 2014 (yes it is possible, will not go into here)

We have Court stamped Divorce Order, Certificate of Finality and the original NSO Annotated Marriage Certificate (the final NSO document is the original marriage certificate annotated on the side stating the date, judge, court circuit of the divorce final pronouncement of divorce - this is on the NSO special paper, NSO stamp and signed and attested by NSO Chief Document Manager - copies of all of this were submitted with the I-129F petition)

Her cousin was approved for a k-1 today and spoke with someone whose "case was the same" (that's all the info I have) and that person stated that she was originally denied because she didn't have a CENOMAR. Reading on the NSO website is looks like a CENOMAR is only for those who have never been married. We can apply for a CENOMAR, no problem, but what would it say.

If anyone here has any experience like this we would really appreciate any help and advice you can provide. Thanks.

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The CENOMAR would still show the marriage. Since you have the NSO Annotated Marriage Certificate, you're fine. They will just verify it before handing the visa. I believe you need to get the Advisory of Marriages too (CRS Form 5)?

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In abu dhabi usem all she needs to provide is her annulment paper/with all the required documentation from nso...it's written in the appointment letter..if she is previously married, cenomar is philippines specific for single person.

Different consulate have different requirements,is her cousin and that "someone"also went to abu dhabi for interview or in different consulate? Just for us to make everything clear.

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In abu dhabi usem all she needs to provide is her annulment paper/with all the required documentation from nso...it's written in the appointment letter..if she is previously married, cenomar is philippines specific for single person.

Different consulate have different requirements,is her cousin and that "someone"also went to abu dhabi for interview or in different consulate? Just for us to make everything clear.

Her cousin went to the Manila embassy and spoke with someone there. But for clarity this is not an annulment but a divorce.

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11-Jan-2019 - I-751 Approved

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21-MAY-2015 - Packet Delivered and signed for

26-May-2015 - NOA Date

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19-Jan-2016 - I-485 AOS Approval I-797 by mail

27-Jan-2016 - 2 Year Green Card Received :dancing:

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20-May-2015 - Filed I-765, I-131 with AOS I-485 (USPS Express Mail)

21-MAY-2015 - Packet Delivered and signed for

26-May-2015 - NOA Date

16-Jun-2015 - Biometrics Appointment

03-Aug-2015 - EAD & AP Approved

16-Aug-2015 - Card Mailed (online update)

19-AUG-2015 - Card Received

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K-1

05-SEP-2014 - I-129F Petition Package Sent

11-SEP-2014 - NOA1 Email Received - Assigned to CSC

20-OCT-2014 - NOA2 Hard Copy Received

03-FEB-2015 - Interview - APPROVED

25-APR-2015 - POE Minneapolis

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Her cousin went to the Manila embassy and spoke with someone there. But for clarity this is not an annulment but a divorce.

In my nationality filipino, we dont have divorce, is the ex husband is from other country too or is he also filipino? Or are they muslim?

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Ok we have a strange situation which we need help on.

Details:

Beneficiary is Filipino

Previously married

Divorce was final 05March, 2014 (yes it is possible, will not go into here)

We have Court stamped Divorce Order, Certificate of Finality and the original NSO Annotated Marriage Certificate (the final NSO document is the original marriage certificate annotated on the side stating the date, judge, court circuit of the divorce final pronouncement of divorce - this is on the NSO special paper, NSO stamp and signed and attested by NSO Chief Document Manager - copies of all of this were submitted with the I-129F petition)

Her cousin was approved for a k-1 today and spoke with someone whose "case was the same" (that's all the info I have) and that person stated that she was originally denied because she didn't have a CENOMAR. Reading on the NSO website is looks like a CENOMAR is only for those who have never been married. We can apply for a CENOMAR, no problem, but what would it say.

If anyone here has any experience like this we would really appreciate any help and advice you can provide. Thanks.

Being everything has been recorded at NSO the CENOMAR (CEMAR) will be annotated to show the divorce. At NSO you always request a CENOMAR, if married (or previously married) NSO will issue a CEMAR with the annotation showing the annulment, or as in your case the divorce.

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Thanks all for the feedback, all very helpful.

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29-JAN-2020 - Interview complete - APPROVED!!!:dancing:😁

20-DEC-2019 - Received Interview Notice (29-JAN-2020)

18-JUL-2019 - Biometrics Appointment

29-JUN-2019 - NOA Date

24-JUN-2019 - N-400 Submitted Online

 

ROC

23-OCT-2017 - I-751 Filed. (USPS Priority Mail)

23-OCT-2017 - Packet Delivered and signed for

27-OCT-2017 - NOA Date - Received 02-NOV-2017

2018               - Biometrics and Interviewed Waived

11-Jan-2019 - I-751 Approved

14-Jan-2019 - 10 YearGreen Card Received :dancing:

AOS

20-May-2015 - I-485 Filed, Filed I-765, I-131 at same time. (USPS Express Mail)

21-MAY-2015 - Packet Delivered and signed for

26-May-2015 - NOA Date

16-Jun-2015 - Biometrics Appointment

19-Jan-2016 - I-485 AOS Approval I-797 by mail

27-Jan-2016 - 2 Year Green Card Received :dancing:

EAD, AP

20-May-2015 - Filed I-765, I-131 with AOS I-485 (USPS Express Mail)

21-MAY-2015 - Packet Delivered and signed for

26-May-2015 - NOA Date

16-Jun-2015 - Biometrics Appointment

03-Aug-2015 - EAD & AP Approved

16-Aug-2015 - Card Mailed (online update)

19-AUG-2015 - Card Received

:thumbs:(L)(F):thumbs:

K-1

05-SEP-2014 - I-129F Petition Package Sent

11-SEP-2014 - NOA1 Email Received - Assigned to CSC

20-OCT-2014 - NOA2 Hard Copy Received

03-FEB-2015 - Interview - APPROVED

25-APR-2015 - POE Minneapolis

16-May-2015 - Married, Brooklyn Park, MN (L):rolleyes::D:dancing:

05-DEC-2015 - Son enters on K-2

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Being everything has been recorded at NSO the CENOMAR (CEMAR) will be annotated to show the divorce. At NSO you always request a CENOMAR, if married (or previously married) NSO will issue a CEMAR with the annotation showing the annulment, or as in your case the divorce.

She received the CEMAR (CRS Form NO. 5) but it is not annotated with the divorce. It states:

The Date, Place and Names from previous marriage

"This certification is based on the records of 1945-2014 marriages enrolled in the database as of August 30, 2014."

"Issued upon the request of XXXXXXXX for Marriage To A Foreigner"

But we have the original of the Annotated Marriage Certificate. We included that and the stamped court documents in our I-129f packet which was approved.

Since we will interview in Abu Dhabi, not Manila, will we need the CEMAR? Should we get a corrected one. She will go on holiday to Manila in December so she can go to NSO if needed, actually will go to get extra copies of the Annotated Marriage Certificate. Out interview will probably be in FEB based on NVC and Abu Dhabi timelines.

Thanks for any help.

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20-DEC-2019 - Received Interview Notice (29-JAN-2020)

18-JUL-2019 - Biometrics Appointment

29-JUN-2019 - NOA Date

24-JUN-2019 - N-400 Submitted Online

 

ROC

23-OCT-2017 - I-751 Filed. (USPS Priority Mail)

23-OCT-2017 - Packet Delivered and signed for

27-OCT-2017 - NOA Date - Received 02-NOV-2017

2018               - Biometrics and Interviewed Waived

11-Jan-2019 - I-751 Approved

14-Jan-2019 - 10 YearGreen Card Received :dancing:

AOS

20-May-2015 - I-485 Filed, Filed I-765, I-131 at same time. (USPS Express Mail)

21-MAY-2015 - Packet Delivered and signed for

26-May-2015 - NOA Date

16-Jun-2015 - Biometrics Appointment

19-Jan-2016 - I-485 AOS Approval I-797 by mail

27-Jan-2016 - 2 Year Green Card Received :dancing:

EAD, AP

20-May-2015 - Filed I-765, I-131 with AOS I-485 (USPS Express Mail)

21-MAY-2015 - Packet Delivered and signed for

26-May-2015 - NOA Date

16-Jun-2015 - Biometrics Appointment

03-Aug-2015 - EAD & AP Approved

16-Aug-2015 - Card Mailed (online update)

19-AUG-2015 - Card Received

:thumbs:(L)(F):thumbs:

K-1

05-SEP-2014 - I-129F Petition Package Sent

11-SEP-2014 - NOA1 Email Received - Assigned to CSC

20-OCT-2014 - NOA2 Hard Copy Received

03-FEB-2015 - Interview - APPROVED

25-APR-2015 - POE Minneapolis

16-May-2015 - Married, Brooklyn Park, MN (L):rolleyes::D:dancing:

05-DEC-2015 - Son enters on K-2

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She received the CEMAR (CRS Form NO. 5) but it is not annotated with the divorce. It states:

The Date, Place and Names from previous marriage

"This certification is based on the records of 1945-2014 marriages enrolled in the database as of August 30, 2014."

"Issued upon the request of XXXXXXXX for Marriage To A Foreigner"

But we have the original of the Annotated Marriage Certificate. We included that and the stamped court documents in our I-129f packet which was approved.

Since we will interview in Abu Dhabi, not Manila, will we need the CEMAR? Should we get a corrected one. She will go on holiday to Manila in December so she can go to NSO if needed, actually will go to get extra copies of the Annotated Marriage Certificate. Out interview will probably be in FEB based on NVC and Abu Dhabi timelines.

Thanks for any help.

I don't know what is required for Adu Dhabi, I would suggest reading the embassy instructions letter for that embassy. Or email/call them.

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In abu dhabi usem only divorce paper or death certificate is listed requirements for the previous marriage. But i will suggest to bring cemar and marriage cert with annotation just to be sure.it's better to prepare and bring all the necessary document.goodluck ?

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I don't know what is required for Adu Dhabi, I would suggest reading the embassy instructions letter for that embassy. Or email/call them.

But should the CRS 5 be annotated with the divorce like the marriage certificate? That is my primary question, if so she can go to NSO and get it corrected or should we just ask the NSO?

I did read the forums for Abu Dhabi and kind of got a mixed message, one with an annulment just brought the court documents and the annotated marriage certificate others were not clear.

Thanks for all your help

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29-JAN-2020 - Interview complete - APPROVED!!!:dancing:😁

20-DEC-2019 - Received Interview Notice (29-JAN-2020)

18-JUL-2019 - Biometrics Appointment

29-JUN-2019 - NOA Date

24-JUN-2019 - N-400 Submitted Online

 

ROC

23-OCT-2017 - I-751 Filed. (USPS Priority Mail)

23-OCT-2017 - Packet Delivered and signed for

27-OCT-2017 - NOA Date - Received 02-NOV-2017

2018               - Biometrics and Interviewed Waived

11-Jan-2019 - I-751 Approved

14-Jan-2019 - 10 YearGreen Card Received :dancing:

AOS

20-May-2015 - I-485 Filed, Filed I-765, I-131 at same time. (USPS Express Mail)

21-MAY-2015 - Packet Delivered and signed for

26-May-2015 - NOA Date

16-Jun-2015 - Biometrics Appointment

19-Jan-2016 - I-485 AOS Approval I-797 by mail

27-Jan-2016 - 2 Year Green Card Received :dancing:

EAD, AP

20-May-2015 - Filed I-765, I-131 with AOS I-485 (USPS Express Mail)

21-MAY-2015 - Packet Delivered and signed for

26-May-2015 - NOA Date

16-Jun-2015 - Biometrics Appointment

03-Aug-2015 - EAD & AP Approved

16-Aug-2015 - Card Mailed (online update)

19-AUG-2015 - Card Received

:thumbs:(L)(F):thumbs:

K-1

05-SEP-2014 - I-129F Petition Package Sent

11-SEP-2014 - NOA1 Email Received - Assigned to CSC

20-OCT-2014 - NOA2 Hard Copy Received

03-FEB-2015 - Interview - APPROVED

25-APR-2015 - POE Minneapolis

16-May-2015 - Married, Brooklyn Park, MN (L):rolleyes::D:dancing:

05-DEC-2015 - Son enters on K-2

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Once the divorce has been accepted and recorded with NSO I believe they would annotate the CEMAR. You will need to check with NSO and/or the attorney that handled the divorce.

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Once the divorce has been accepted and recorded with NSO I believe they would annotate the CEMAR. You will need to check with NSO and/or the attorney that handled the divorce.

Thanks, really appreciate the help.

Citizenship  :dancing:

19-FEB-2020 - Oath Ceremony, Passport Application, Voter Registration - ALL DONE!!!:dancing::dancing::dancing:

03-FEB-2020 - Received Oath Ceremony Notice (19-FEB-2020)

29-JAN-2020 - Interview complete - APPROVED!!!:dancing:😁

20-DEC-2019 - Received Interview Notice (29-JAN-2020)

18-JUL-2019 - Biometrics Appointment

29-JUN-2019 - NOA Date

24-JUN-2019 - N-400 Submitted Online

 

ROC

23-OCT-2017 - I-751 Filed. (USPS Priority Mail)

23-OCT-2017 - Packet Delivered and signed for

27-OCT-2017 - NOA Date - Received 02-NOV-2017

2018               - Biometrics and Interviewed Waived

11-Jan-2019 - I-751 Approved

14-Jan-2019 - 10 YearGreen Card Received :dancing:

AOS

20-May-2015 - I-485 Filed, Filed I-765, I-131 at same time. (USPS Express Mail)

21-MAY-2015 - Packet Delivered and signed for

26-May-2015 - NOA Date

16-Jun-2015 - Biometrics Appointment

19-Jan-2016 - I-485 AOS Approval I-797 by mail

27-Jan-2016 - 2 Year Green Card Received :dancing:

EAD, AP

20-May-2015 - Filed I-765, I-131 with AOS I-485 (USPS Express Mail)

21-MAY-2015 - Packet Delivered and signed for

26-May-2015 - NOA Date

16-Jun-2015 - Biometrics Appointment

03-Aug-2015 - EAD & AP Approved

16-Aug-2015 - Card Mailed (online update)

19-AUG-2015 - Card Received

:thumbs:(L)(F):thumbs:

K-1

05-SEP-2014 - I-129F Petition Package Sent

11-SEP-2014 - NOA1 Email Received - Assigned to CSC

20-OCT-2014 - NOA2 Hard Copy Received

03-FEB-2015 - Interview - APPROVED

25-APR-2015 - POE Minneapolis

16-May-2015 - Married, Brooklyn Park, MN (L):rolleyes::D:dancing:

05-DEC-2015 - Son enters on K-2

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*** Thread moved from K-1 Process forum to the Embassy/Consulate forum -- topic involves that phase. ***

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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