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I entered USA with K1 visa. I have to apply for PR now, what are the supporting documents I need to submit with i-485? Do they need original copies of everything or photocopy is fine? Also, do they need my police clearance?

Please help! I am stuck.

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AoS

Day 0 (4/23/12) Petitions mailed (I-360, I-485, I-765)
2 (4/25/12) Petitions delivered to Chicago Lockbox
11 (5/3/12) Received 3 paper NOAs
13 (5/5/12) Received biometrics appointment for 5/23
15 (5/7/12) Did an unpleasant walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX
45 (6/7/12) Received email & text notification of an interview on 7/10
67 (6/29/12) EAD production ordered
77 (7/9/12) Received EAD
78 (7/10/12) Interview
100 (8/1/12) I-485 transferred to Vermont Service Centre
143 (9/13/12) Contacted DHS Ombudsman
268 (1/16/13) I-360, I-485 consolidated and transferred to Dallas
299 (2/16/13) Received second interview letter for 3/8
319 (3/8/13) Approved at interview
345 (4/3/13) I-360, I-485 formally approved; green card production ordered
353 (4/11/13) Received green card

 

Naturalisation

Day 0 (1/3/18) N-400 filed online

Day 6 (1/9/18) Walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX

Day 341 (12/10/18) Interview was scheduled for 1/14/19

Day 376 (1/14/19) Interview

Day 385 (1/23/19) Denied

Day 400 (2/7/19) Denial revoked; N-400 approved; oath ceremony set for 2/14/19

Day 407 (2/14/19) Oath ceremony in Dallas, TX

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You have to read the instructions very carefully in order to know what you need to submit. Everyone's situation is different. The documentation itself is usually the same for everyone, birth cert. marriage cert. passport copy, photos, etc, medical, etc. The bona fides of your marriage is what can vary, but usually include, taxes, birth certs of children of both of you, leases/mortgages, joint property and/ or accounts, joint health/life/auto insurance policies, joint or commingled utility bills with same address (you pay the cable, your spouse the electricity), basically anything that shows you live together and share expense together. Add on top of that photos, call records, emails, and affidavits if you feel that you don't have enough of the other stuff.

This does not constitute legal advice.

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You have to read the instructions very carefully in order to know what you need to submit. Everyone's situation is different. The documentation itself is usually the same for everyone, birth cert. marriage cert. passport copy, photos, etc, medical, etc. The bona fides of your marriage is what can vary, but usually include, taxes, birth certs of children of both of you, leases/mortgages, joint property and/ or accounts, joint health/life/auto insurance policies, joint or commingled utility bills with same address (you pay the cable, your spouse the electricity), basically anything that shows you live together and share expense together. Add on top of that photos, call records, emails, and affidavits if you feel that you don't have enough of the other stuff.

Someone adjusting from a K-1, as the OP is, does not need all that. No other proof of marriage is needed besides a photocopy of their marriage certificate.

OP >

Follow this guide for AOS > http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1k3aos

The fees for the I-765(EAD-work authorization) and I-131(AP-advance parole for travel) are waived when filed with a pending I-485, so include both of those too. It takes about 60-90 days to receive the EAD/AP combo card, which will allow you to work(along with an SSN) and re-enter the US when traveling abroad while waiting for the green card approval. This is what you need for the I-765 and I-131 > http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/472439-evidence-for-756-and-131/?p=6723671

You need all the supporting documents for each form as well, so read the instructions for each one. You can also search here on VJ for what to include with each form if you get stumped. There are also example forms here on VJ you can look at when filling out the forms. They can be helpful.

Oh, and here are the details you need about whether or not you need to see a civil surgeon > http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/428381-i-693-report-of-medical-examination-and-vaccination-report/?p=6206232

Print out your I-94 info > https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov/I94/request.html

Follow this guide for getting the SSN > http://www.visajourney.com/content/ssn

Link to K-1 instructions for Ciudad Juarez, Mexico > https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/K1/CDJ_Ciudad-Juarez-2-22-2021.pdf

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Did you not read the link you just posted? What marriage based AOS petition will USCIS approve without proof of marriage besides the marriage cert? You always have to provide documentation as to the bona fides of the marriage. I'm pretty sure the instructions on the I 485 say so, and even if they don't, submitting enough documentation can result in not having an in person interview.

Someone adjusting from a K-1, as the OP is, does not need all that. No other proof of marriage is needed besides a photocopy of their marriage certificate.

OP >

Follow this guide for AOS > http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1k3aos

The fees for the I-765(EAD-work authorization) and I-131(AP-advance parole for travel) are waived when filed with a pending I-485, so include both of those too. It takes about 60-90 days to receive the EAD/AP combo card, which will allow you to work(along with an SSN) and re-enter the US when traveling abroad while waiting for the green card approval. This is what you need for the I-765 and I-131 > http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/472439-evidence-for-756-and-131/?p=6723671

You need all the supporting documents for each form as well, so read the instructions for each one. You can also search here on VJ for what to include with each form if you get stumped. There are also example forms here on VJ you can look at when filling out the forms. They can be helpful.

Oh, and here are the details you need about whether or not you need to see a civil surgeon > http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/428381-i-693-report-of-medical-examination-and-vaccination-report/?p=6206232

Print out your I-94 info > https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov/I94/request.html

Follow this guide for getting the SSN > http://www.visajourney.com/content/ssn

This does not constitute legal advice.

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Also whatever evidence submitted with the K1 petition would not be the same required as for the AOS. The K1 requires evidence that you have met in person and that you intent to marry within 90 days of entry and not for evading immigration laws. For AOS you prove the same thing in addition to the bona fides after your marriage.

This does not constitute legal advice.

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Did you not read the link you just posted? What marriage based AOS petition will USCIS approve without proof of marriage besides the marriage cert? You always have to provide documentation as to the bona fides of the marriage. I'm pretty sure the instructions on the I 485 say so, and even if they don't, submitting enough documentation can result in not having an in person interview.

Also whatever evidence submitted with the K1 petition would not be the same required as for the AOS. The K1 requires evidence that you have met in person and that you intent to marry within 90 days of entry and not for evading immigration laws. For AOS you prove the same thing in addition to the bona fides after your marriage.

To answer your question that I bolded: someone adjusting from a K-1 visa, as I already stated.

You are mistaken. What I posted was absolutely correct.

Of course I have read the things from the links I posted. Have you? It does not appear you have even read the I-485 form instructions.

You do not need to include any evidence of a bona fide marriage with the I-485, just the marriage certificate. If you happen to get an interview, then you would bring evidence of marriage such as co-mingling of finances and co-habitation. Sometimes it is not even asked for or looked at in the interview either. And no, supplying extra evidence that is not required is not what keeps anyone from having an interview. The interviews seem to be completely random. Many are approved without interview and they followed the instructions and provided nothing but a copy of their marriage certificate. Besides that, getting an interview has been a faster way to be approved lately. Getting an interview waiver has had a lot of people waiting months longer for their green cards.

Everything from the I-129F petition and K-1 visa interview are already present in your case file anyway. It is hand-carried by the K-1 visa entrant and handed over in a sealed envelope. Of course what was required for the I-129F petition is not what is required again for the I-485. You do not prove you intend to marry with an I-485. You are already married, so that is just silliness, and nowhere in the links provided did it state anyone needed to provide the same evidence as they did for the K-1. You must have been married within 90 days of entry with the K-1 visa in order to be eligible to file. You provide proof of entry date with the entry stamp and I-94 and proof of marrying within the 90 days with the marriage certificate.

Link to K-1 instructions for Ciudad Juarez, Mexico > https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/K1/CDJ_Ciudad-Juarez-2-22-2021.pdf

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What I meant to say was that for AOS you have to prove that your marriage wasn't for the purpose of evading immigration laws in the same way you had to for K1, not that you have to prove your intent to marry, I clearly should have worded it differently. Also if for whatever reason they approve people without an interview, it's because they provided sufficient evidence of their relationship the first time when they applied for the K1. Some cases "look" more iffy than others so they are tagged. You're right about the instructions not requiring them, which is why I said even if they don't require them you should submit them. However, I was thinking about filing the I130 with the I485 not the K1 process, so I got confused because that was another case I'm following. All the same, while they may not be required to "send in" the documentation, they still need to have it. They are definitely going to want to see it if for the I751. Telling people that it's not required will let them go 2 years without worrying about gathering enough documentation. Then when they need the documentation, they'll be all over the place trying to figure out what to do.

To answer your question that I bolded: someone adjusting from a K-1 visa, as I already stated.

You are mistaken. What I posted was absolutely correct.

Of course I have read the things from the links I posted. Have you? It does not appear you have even read the I-485 form instructions.

You do not need to include any evidence of a bona fide marriage with the I-485, just the marriage certificate. If you happen to get an interview, then you would bring evidence of marriage such as co-mingling of finances and co-habitation. Sometimes it is not even asked for or looked at in the interview either. And no, supplying extra evidence that is not required is not what keeps anyone from having an interview. The interviews seem to be completely random. Many are approved without interview and they followed the instructions and provided nothing but a copy of their marriage certificate. Besides that, getting an interview has been a faster way to be approved lately. Getting an interview waiver has had a lot of people waiting months longer for their green cards.

Everything from the I-129F petition and K-1 visa interview are already present in your case file anyway. It is hand-carried by the K-1 visa entrant and handed over in a sealed envelope. Of course what was required for the I-129F petition is not what is required again for the I-485. You do not prove you intend to marry with an I-485. You are already married, so that is just silliness, and nowhere in the links provided did it state anyone needed to provide the same evidence as they did for the K-1. You must have been married within 90 days of entry with the K-1 visa in order to be eligible to file. You provide proof of entry date with the entry stamp and I-94 and proof of marrying within the 90 days with the marriage certificate.

This does not constitute legal advice.

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As stated, it's the I-130 that requires proof of a bona fide marriage, not an I-485. That being said, I personally would also include a little proof with the I-485, but that's just me.

Widow/er AoS Guide | Have AoS questions? Read (some) answers here

 

AoS

Day 0 (4/23/12) Petitions mailed (I-360, I-485, I-765)
2 (4/25/12) Petitions delivered to Chicago Lockbox
11 (5/3/12) Received 3 paper NOAs
13 (5/5/12) Received biometrics appointment for 5/23
15 (5/7/12) Did an unpleasant walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX
45 (6/7/12) Received email & text notification of an interview on 7/10
67 (6/29/12) EAD production ordered
77 (7/9/12) Received EAD
78 (7/10/12) Interview
100 (8/1/12) I-485 transferred to Vermont Service Centre
143 (9/13/12) Contacted DHS Ombudsman
268 (1/16/13) I-360, I-485 consolidated and transferred to Dallas
299 (2/16/13) Received second interview letter for 3/8
319 (3/8/13) Approved at interview
345 (4/3/13) I-360, I-485 formally approved; green card production ordered
353 (4/11/13) Received green card

 

Naturalisation

Day 0 (1/3/18) N-400 filed online

Day 6 (1/9/18) Walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX

Day 341 (12/10/18) Interview was scheduled for 1/14/19

Day 376 (1/14/19) Interview

Day 385 (1/23/19) Denied

Day 400 (2/7/19) Denial revoked; N-400 approved; oath ceremony set for 2/14/19

Day 407 (2/14/19) Oath ceremony in Dallas, TX

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What I meant to say was that for AOS you have to prove that your marriage wasn't for the purpose of evading immigration laws in the same way you had to for K1, not that you have to prove your intent to marry, I clearly should have worded it differently. Also if for whatever reason they approve people without an interview, it's because they provided sufficient evidence of their relationship the first time when they applied for the K1. Some cases "look" more iffy than others so they are tagged. You're right about the instructions not requiring them, which is why I said even if they don't require them you should submit them. However, I was thinking about filing the I130 with the I485 not the K1 process, so I got confused because that was another case I'm following. All the same, while they may not be required to "send in" the documentation, they still need to have it. They are definitely going to want to see it if for the I751. Telling people that it's not required will let them go 2 years without worrying about gathering enough documentation. Then when they need the documentation, they'll be all over the place trying to figure out what to do.

The I-130 needs evidence, yes. Someone adjusting from a K-1 does not file an I-130. It is not required for the I-485, period. It does not make your chances better for anything if you add what is not required. It does not help anything with ROC later either. Proof of marriage is needed for ROC and you must provide evidence from the entire length of your marriage. Not sure what one has to do with the other.

If they look at someone's overall case file and feel their K-1 approval and case seems 'iffy', then yes, they will give them an interview. That is not the case for every interview though. Some interviews seem to be just to meet some quota for a number of AOS interviews that they need conduct. People from the UK do not need to provide much in the way of relationship evidence for the K-1, and yet people from the UK get approved without interview, so I am not sold on the notion that only those that are approved without interview supplied sufficient proof of relationship with the K-1. Most of the time, who gets called for an interview and who doesn't really does appear to be completely random.

Anyone can add in whatever extras that are not required as they wish. However, proof of the marriage(other than copy of marriage cert) is not required and you can easily be approved on just what the I-485 instructions ask for; nothing more, and nothing less.

Link to K-1 instructions for Ciudad Juarez, Mexico > https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/K1/CDJ_Ciudad-Juarez-2-22-2021.pdf

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