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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: South Korea
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Hi all!
I recently this post on NOLO:

"But if something happens and you were not able to marry within the 90 days -- yet the marriage is still what you want -- your best bet is likely to go ahead and marry. As long as the U.S. immigration authorities have not caught up with you before you are ready to submit the green card application, you should be able to apply for it through normal procedures, as explained below.

Filing Late for Your Green Card

If you marry after the 90 days permitted by your fiancé visa, your spouse will have to submit an I-130 visa petition on your behalf. (It is similar to the Form I-129F that he or she filed in order to start the process of getting you a fiance visa, but this form is used for married couples.) Because you are already legally in the U.S., the I-130 can be submitted with the rest of your green card application, which you will send by mail to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). Form I-130 shows your eligibility to immigrate (this time as the immediate relative (spouse) of a U.S. citizen, rather than as a fiancé) and your spouse’s willingness to support your application. Another consequence of marrying after the 90-day expiration of your visa is that you will be living in the United States unlawfully. Although this is a serious concern, it is unlikely that the immigration authorities will search you out anytime soon. The agency has higher enforcement priorities than going after people who will ultimately have the right to a green card but are simply late in applying for it. (http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/fiance-marriage-visa-book/chapter5-25.html)"

I am planning on entering the U.S. around mid-August, 2014. So according to the 90 days requirement, I should be married to him by early or mid-Nov. However, getting married in Dec will be most ideal since that will be the time when my sister can attend the wedding. Also, both my fiance and I will be in school, so we would like to avoid getting married in the middle of the semester, just before finals. We can't get married anytime before Oct because my parents will only be able to come from South Korea to the U.S. after Oct.

I wouldn't want to play above the law or rules, but my fiance and I are desparately looking into ways to make this marriage a special time for both our families (my sister and my parents are the only ones from my side of the family who can attend the wedding, besides my U.S. friends). Would you please share your insights and advice on this? If petitioning for I-130 after getting married after 90 days is a legal /lawful thing, we would like to pursue it.

Thank you very much for your consideration and help!

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Hi all!

I recently this post on NOLO:

"But if something happens and you were not able to marry within the 90 days -- yet the marriage is still what you want -- your best bet is likely to go ahead and marry. As long as the U.S. immigration authorities have not caught up with you before you are ready to submit the green card application, you should be able to apply for it through normal procedures, as explained below. Filing Late for Your Green Card

If you marry after the 90 days permitted by your fiancé visa, your spouse will have to submit an I-130 visa petition on your behalf. (It is similar to the Form I-129F that he or she filed in order to start the process of getting you a fiance visa, but this form is used for married couples.) Because you are already legally in the U.S., the I-130 can be submitted with the rest of your green card application, which you will send by mail to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). Form I-130 shows your eligibility to immigrate (this time as the immediate relative (spouse) of a U.S. citizen, rather than as a fiancé) and your spouses willingness to support your application. Another consequence of marrying after the 90-day expiration of your visa is that you will be living in the United States unlawfully. Although this is a serious concern, it is unlikely that the immigration authorities will search you out anytime soon. The agency has higher enforcement priorities than going after people who will ultimately have the right to a green card but are simply late in applying for it. (http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/fiance-marriage-visa-book/chapter5-25.html)"

I am planning on entering the U.S. around mid-August, 2014. So according to the 90 days requirement, I should be married to him by early or mid-Nov. However, getting married in Dec will be most ideal since that will be the time when my sister can attend the wedding. Also, both my fiance and I will be in school, so we would like to avoid getting married in the middle of the semester, just before finals. We can't get married anytime before Oct because my parents will only be able to come from South Korea to the U.S. after Oct.

I wouldn't want to play above the law or rules, but my fiance and I are desparately looking into ways to make this marriage a special time for both our families (my sister and my parents are the only ones from my side of the family who can attend the wedding, besides my U.S. friends). Would you please share your insights and advice on this? If petitioning for I-130 after getting married after 90 days is a legal /lawful thing, we would like to pursue it.

Thank you very much for your consideration and help!

Yes why risk it after all this stress and why stress on breaking the regulation and requirement of k1 visa. Do the civil courthouse thing and do a grand reception in Dec as Lainie suggested.

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I-129F form sent : 28th April 2014

NOA 1 : 6th May 2014

NOA 2 : 14th May 2014

NVC Recieved: 28th May 2014

NVC Sent: 29th May 2014

Consulate Recieved: 3rd June 2014

Packet 3 Recieved: 16th June 2014

Packet 3 Sent : 18th June 2014

Medical Exam: 18th June 2014

Packet 4: 19th June 2014

Interview: 1st July 2014

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: South Korea
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Hi!

Thanks Lainie B and Ppll909 for sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it. You are right. It's better to not risk breaking the 90 day rule. I've thought about doing a court house wedding and then have a family reception later, but for religious reasons, I cannot do that. The religious ceremony is considered a legal marriage and the civil wedding and religious ceremony cannot happen on a different day. This is why my fiance and I are a bit desperate to find ways to have a wedding after 90 days.

Once again, thanks for your comment! It was much sooner than I had expected. If you have any more ideas, please feel free to share them!

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Then it seems you can't do both... you either have to leave for the US later than you intended and marry in December or have a legal marriage early and ceremony/reception later. The 90 days requirement is the legal specification of a K1 and from everything I've read in the past it is not in accordance with the rules of a K1 to do otherwise.

Mar 2011 - After 5mths denied for lost docs - Attempts to follow up failed. Mar 18 2012 - I-129F sent - No sign of NOA1 but they have banked the check...Jul 24 - Update - USCIS has located our file
Infopass Apt - they sorted through everything - our 2011 and 2012 file keep getting mixed up - getting us a Case# (still waiting) Dec- Infopass Appt- expecting to get a case # in about a week ..Still no Case number

Mar 2013 Infopass - advised file was in a box somewhere,and it would be quicker for us to refile. Life gets in the way... New petition submitted July 2014 .
I-129F Sent : Jul 28 2014
TSC received: Aug 04 2014
I-129F NOA1 : Aug 06 2014
I-129F NOA2 : Feb 25 2015 (NOA2 copy rcd: Mar 02)

Sent to NVC: Mar 09 / Left NVC Apr 1 / Arr Embassy Apr 7 / Pkt 3 Rcd Apr 15 / Medical Apr 17 / Pkt 3 sent May 1 / Interview May 12

Left NZ May 15

Married Aug 10

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
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Then it seems you can't do both... you either have to leave for the US later than you intended and marry in December or have a legal marriage early and ceremony/reception later. The 90 days requirement is the legal specification of a K1 and from everything I've read in the past it is not in accordance with the rules of a K1 to do otherwise.

Yes, this. Just postpone your entry into the US a bit to make sure you can get married wihin 90 days in December.

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Get married in a courthouse within the 90 days, then have the big ceremony and reception with your family and friends when you are ready. Lots of people do it this way.

Yeah ! This is our plan too get marry in a courthouse no ceremony, just consider it another step in the process... In our minds we will still be just engaged until the real wedding ceremony with family, dress, friends, etc

August, 2011: Met

June 23, 2012: In love!

July 11, 2014: I-129F Sent

July 15, 2014: Delivery confirmation USPS

July 18, 2014: NOA1 text / Check cashed / WAC !

July 22, 2014: Alien registration number changed

July 24, 2014: NOA1 hard copy

July 26 to Aug 13: Visited my love in Michigan (no problems at POE Detroit)

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: China
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Hi all!
I recently this post on NOLO:

"But if something happens and you were not able to marry within the 90 days -- yet the marriage is still what you want -- your best bet is likely to go ahead and marry. As long as the U.S. immigration authorities have not caught up with you before you are ready to submit the green card application, you should be able to apply for it through normal procedures, as explained below.

Filing Late for Your Green Card

If you marry after the 90 days permitted by your fiancé visa, your spouse will have to submit an I-130 visa petition on your behalf. (It is similar to the Form I-129F that he or she filed in order to start the process of getting you a fiance visa, but this form is used for married couples.) Because you are already legally in the U.S., the I-130 can be submitted with the rest of your green card application, which you will send by mail to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). Form I-130 shows your eligibility to immigrate (this time as the immediate relative (spouse) of a U.S. citizen, rather than as a fiancé) and your spouse’s willingness to support your application. Another consequence of marrying after the 90-day expiration of your visa is that you will be living in the United States unlawfully. Although this is a serious concern, it is unlikely that the immigration authorities will search you out anytime soon. The agency has higher enforcement priorities than going after people who will ultimately have the right to a green card but are simply late in applying for it. (http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/fiance-marriage-visa-book/chapter5-25.html)"

I am planning on entering the U.S. around mid-August, 2014. So according to the 90 days requirement, I should be married to him by early or mid-Nov. However, getting married in Dec will be most ideal since that will be the time when my sister can attend the wedding. Also, both my fiance and I will be in school, so we would like to avoid getting married in the middle of the semester, just before finals. We can't get married anytime before Oct because my parents will only be able to come from South Korea to the U.S. after Oct.

I wouldn't want to play above the law or rules, but my fiance and I are desparately looking into ways to make this marriage a special time for both our families (my sister and my parents are the only ones from my side of the family who can attend the wedding, besides my U.S. friends). Would you please share your insights and advice on this? If petitioning for I-130 after getting married after 90 days is a legal /lawful thing, we would like to pursue it.

Thank you very much for your consideration and help!

Separate the formal registration of marriage to US government, and wedding ceremony.

You can go to the local country court, and file for marriage license, and after required waiting period (few days perhaps),

you can schedule an appointment with Peace of Justice at the county court to officially marry you (about $150 to $250).

And do this ASAP, so that you can get started on the (temporary) green card processing.

That way you can have the wedding ceremony at any time as you are officially married now

and there is no more 90 day time pressure.

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10-04-2013 We met online
11-21-2013 We met in person in Shanghai for 2 weeks

12-13-2013 I-129F packet sent via express

12-19-2013 USCIS NOA #1 (text and email) received

12-24-2013 USCIS assigns Alien Registration Number
12-31-2013 USCIS NOA #1 hard copy received
06-02-2014 USCIS web site shows NOA #2 approval
06-06-2014 USCIS web site shows case sent to NVC

06-xx-2014 Fiancee acquired birth, marriage, and police certificates from local police station (wrong)

06-16-2014 NVC creates case with GUZ### number

06-19-2014 NVC sends case sent to Guangzhou, China
06-24-2014 Received packet 3 express mail from embassy
06-25-2014 Completed DS-160 and paid K1 visa fee

06-26-2014 Mailed packet 3 response back to Embassy

06-26-2014 Requested police certificate from Russian embassy

07-08-2014 Received packet 4 email from Embassy

07-17-2014 Picked up Russian police certificate

07-25-2014 Fiancee medical exam (received MMR & Varicella, but they missed required TD shot)

07-31-2014 Picked up medical exam reports

08-01-2014 Request (correct) birth, marriage, and police certificates from Notarial Service (GongZhengChu)

08-06-2014 Picked up birth, marriage, and police certificates from Notarial Service

08-14-2014 Passed Interview Guangzhou embassy

09-01-2014 Received passport, visa, & sealed envelope

09-13-2014 POE

09-17-2014 Went to CBP office to get (US entry) I-94 updated correctly

09-18-2014 Applied for Social Security Card
09-19-2014 Applied for Marriage License (via online)
09-25-2014 Received Social Security Card
09-30-2014 Picked up Marriage License
10-09-2014 Marriage by Justice of Peace
10-09-2014 Got Certified Marriage Certificate Copies
10-17-2014 Received a letter from SS office that they need the marriage license
10-09-2014 Applied to change the social security card name
10-24-2014 Went back to SS office to provide the marriage certificate documents again!!!
12-09-2014 Submitted AOS, EAD, and AP
12-16-2014 Received 16 emails and 16 text NOA messages
01-05-2015 Received Biometrics appointment letter for (01-12-2015)
01-12-2015 Had Biometrics (fingerprint & picture) - Required Marriage Certificate!!!
02-17-2015 EAD and AP is approved
02-23-2015 Received AP is approval letter
02-25-2015 Received EAD/AP combo card (expires 02/16/2016)
02-27-2015 Applied for SS card name change (they took her SS card)
02-27-2015 Driver's learner permit test was denied since the SS card was given to SS office for name change
03-17-2015 Received SS card with married name
03-17-2015 Started to change all her accounts to married name
03-23-2015 Received potential interview waiver letter
03-27-2015 DMV rejects learner's permit due to "legal status=pending" and vision test failure
04-05-2015 Vision test for learner's permit
04-06-2015 DPS sent us letter that DHS cleared my wife's status to acquire driver's license.
04-10-2015 Passed Driver Learner's Permit
04-22-2015 Received Driver Learner's Permit ID card (expires 02/16/2016)
08-27-2015 Green Card approved
08-31-2015 Received Green Card "Welcome Notice Was Mailed" letter
09-05-2015 Received Green card
10-26-2015 Passed Driver's License Road Test (on 3rd attempt)
11-03-2015 Received Driver's License (expires 02/16/2022)
11-06-2015 Applied to remove conditional work remark on SS card
11-23-2015 Received updated Social Security Card.
- - - - - - - - - - Pending Future Processing - - - - - - - - - -
05-27-2017 File 10 Year Green Card
08-27-2017 2 Year Green Card Expires
05-27-2018 File USC

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I agree on whaf Laibie said. That is what im planning to do.!!!! :)

March.3 2014 - I-129F Packet mailed to Dallas Lockbox


March 5. 2014 - I-129F Packet received at Dallas Lockbox


March 6 .2014 - NOA1 email - Petition sent to California Service Center - Check cashed


March 7 2014- NOA1 Hardcopy received- Alien Registration # changed


April 2 2014 - Align Registration # changed again.


_______________________________


May 5. 2014- Missing information of Petition's background criminal history, so got a letter from CSC. RFE


May 16 2014- RFE is received and its under review


May 21 2014 - NOA2 Approval - Petition approved in 78 days from NOA1


May 30 2014 - Case sent to NVC


May 26 2014 - NOA2 Hardcopy


May 30 2014 - NVC received our case from USCIS


_______________________________


June 03 2014 - NVC Case Number assigned : SEO2014651003 -> Seoul - date 2014/6/5 (received date) -1003!


June 05 2014 - CEAC Status -" In Transit"


June 07 2014 - Case shipped to Consulate


June 10 2014 - Case arrived at Consulate - CEAC Status change to "Ready"


June 10 2014 - Packet 3 received ( not the physical packet3 but e-packet 3 from him)


June 12 2014- Interview date is determined


June 12 2014 - Visa fee is paid via citibank


Packet 4 (Interview Letter) didn't receive =)


______________________________


July 01 2014 - Medical scheduled


July 15 2014 - Interview in Seoul


July 16 2014 - CEAC Status changed to " in processing "


July 17 2014- CEAC Status changed to " issued' !!!!!!!!!!!! =) yes yes yes


July 18 2014 - Visa received


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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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Hi!

Thanks Lainie B and Ppll909 for sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it. You are right. It's better to not risk breaking the 90 day rule. I've thought about doing a court house wedding and then have a family reception later, but for religious reasons, I cannot do that. The religious ceremony is considered a legal marriage and the civil wedding and religious ceremony cannot happen on a different day. This is why my fiance and I are a bit desperate to find ways to have a wedding after 90 days.

Once again, thanks for your comment! It was much sooner than I had expected. If you have any more ideas, please feel free to share them!

I'm curious - what religion is this? If you don't want to say, I understand. But I'm really curious what religion teaches that - it's very interesting.

I understand the part about the religious ceremony being considered the legal marriage. But I don't understand why that should prevent you from having a civil marriage a little earlier. Since you don't consider the civil marriage the real marriage - but only the religious marriage, then why can't you get a quick civil marriage - and simply not consider it a real marriage - until the religious ceremony is completed? That way you'll be here completely legally and you won't have to personally consider yourselves married until the religious ceremony takes place. But as far as the government is concerned, you'll be completely legal the whole time you're here.

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I Am The Petitioner

Service Center: Texas Service Center

Transferred? WE WISH!

Consulate : Islamabad, Pakistan

I-129F Sent : 12/07/2013

I-129F NOA1 : 12/16/2013

Alien Registration Number Changed: 12/24/2013

Wait... wait... wait... wait...

Asked Congressman to send service request to USCIS: 7/1/2014

USCIS received Congressman's inquiry: 7/3/2014

Notification via USCIS Website of NOA2 - Approved: 7/5/2014

NOA2: 6/25/2014 - We found out later it had been approved (but not posted) before congressional inquiry received.

Shipped to Embassy: 7/17/2014

Received by Embassy: 7/21/2014 - Status: READY

Packet 3.5: 7/24/2014

Packet 3.5 Sent: 8/7/2014 (We had delays because of civil unrest in Pakistan)

Embassy Receive: 8/21/2014 (Again delays due to civil unrest)

Receive Appointment Letter/Interview Date: 8/27/2014 (interview date in just 9 days)!

Medical Exam: 8/29/2014 (Yikes! The whole thing has now been postponed for 2 months for TB testing)

Interview Date: Originally 9/5/2014 - Now Postponed for at least two months

TB Test Results: 10/15/2014 - came back 18 days early! And she's negative!

Interview Rescheduled 10/17/2014: (embassy moving at lightning speed)!

New Interview Date: 10/29/2014 APPROVED!!!

CEAC Updates to AP: 11/13/2014

CEAC Updates to ISSUED!! 11/14/2014

Visa In-Hand: 11/24/2014

Arrival in USA: 11/27/2014 -- 11 MONTHS, 1 WEEK, 4 DAYS AFTER NOA1

MARRIED: 11/30/2014 !!!

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You should have 6 months to use the K-1 visa ... delay your arrival to the US until October or September so that everyone will be able to attend the ceremony, it will be after finals, and within the 90 days.

Of course, I have no idea WHEN you actually received your visa so I can not tell you if this would work or not.

Jan 25, 2014: I-129F Sent

Feb 13, 2014: NOA1

Apr 15,2014: NOA2 Notice Via USCIS Web Site

Apr 22, 2014: NOA2 Received In Postal Mail

Apr 28: 2014: NVC Received

Apr 30: 2014: NVC Left

May 09, 2014: Embassy Received

Jul 08, 2014: Interview - Approved - CEAC Status Ready

Jul 14 2014: CEAC updated but still READY Status

Jul 16 2014: CEAC Status changed to Administrative Processing

Jul 22 2014: CEAC Status changed to Issued

Jul 28 2014: VISA received

Aug 06 2014: U.S. Arrival (Ft. Lauderdale POE)

Children (3 kids)

Apr 28 2015: Filed I130 petition for each child

Aug 21 2015: Notice from USCIS that all 3 petitions transferred to California Service Center

Sep 17 2015: Approval for all 3 petitions

Nov 12 2015: Paid one AOS fee for all 3 children

Nov 13 2015: Paid separate IV fees for all 3 children

Dec 04 2015: Filed Affidavit of Support (I864) for each child

Jan 12 2016: Received RFE for missing birth certificate from one of the kids packet

Jan 13 2016: Sent in RFE evidence ( birth certificate copy .... again O_o )

Jan 19 2016: Received notice that they received the RFE evidence

Feb 22 2016: Called and found out another RFE was being sent out about birth certificate

Feb 24 2016: Sent in (inextensa versions, not de acta versions) of birth certificates for all children

Mar 02 2016: Received notice that they received the RFE evidence

Mar 11 2016: NVC Process finished, now awaiting interview time slot to be scheduled

Mar 29 2016: Called NVC and found out today they scheduled interview

Apr 01 2016: Received Packet 4 notice via e-mail with interview date

Apr 25 2016: Children received P4 letters in the mail

May 19 2016: Interview

Jun 03 2016: Received Visas

Jul 06 2016: Travel to US

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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hard for me to give accurate advice, you've no timeline !

options:

1. marry after 90 days, file I-130 + I-485 set or

2. delay your entry into USA - I suggest November, if possible and your visa duration allows - then marry, file the I-485 set without the I-130.

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Philippines
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Hi all!
I recently this post on NOLO:

"But if something happens and you were not able to marry within the 90 days -- yet the marriage is still what you want -- your best bet is likely to go ahead and marry. As long as the U.S. immigration authorities have not caught up with you before you are ready to submit the green card application, you should be able to apply for it through normal procedures, as explained below.

Filing Late for Your Green Card

If you marry after the 90 days permitted by your fiancé visa, your spouse will have to submit an I-130 visa petition on your behalf. (It is similar to the Form I-129F that he or she filed in order to start the process of getting you a fiance visa, but this form is used for married couples.) Because you are already legally in the U.S., the I-130 can be submitted with the rest of your green card application, which you will send by mail to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). Form I-130 shows your eligibility to immigrate (this time as the immediate relative (spouse) of a U.S. citizen, rather than as a fiancé) and your spouse’s willingness to support your application. Another consequence of marrying after the 90-day expiration of your visa is that you will be living in the United States unlawfully. Although this is a serious concern, it is unlikely that the immigration authorities will search you out anytime soon. The agency has higher enforcement priorities than going after people who will ultimately have the right to a green card but are simply late in applying for it. (http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/fiance-marriage-visa-book/chapter5-25.html)"

I am planning on entering the U.S. around mid-August, 2014. So according to the 90 days requirement, I should be married to him by early or mid-Nov. However, getting married in Dec will be most ideal since that will be the time when my sister can attend the wedding. Also, both my fiance and I will be in school, so we would like to avoid getting married in the middle of the semester, just before finals. We can't get married anytime before Oct because my parents will only be able to come from South Korea to the U.S. after Oct.

I wouldn't want to play above the law or rules, but my fiance and I are desparately looking into ways to make this marriage a special time for both our families (my sister and my parents are the only ones from my side of the family who can attend the wedding, besides my U.S. friends). Would you please share your insights and advice on this? If petitioning for I-130 after getting married after 90 days is a legal /lawful thing, we would like to pursue it.

Thank you very much for your consideration and help!

Take pictures of the wedding in you and your fiance hanbok!

April 15, 2014 : I-129F Package Sent

April 19, 2014 : I-129F Package Delivery Confirmation via USPS

April 24, 2014 - NOA1 received via email/text

April 25, 2014 - Alien Registration Number changed

April 28, 2014 - NOA1 received in mail.

May 23, 2014 - RFE received in mail.

June 5, 2014 - Response to RFE Sent

June 11, 2014 - NOA2 Approval via website!!!

June 14, 2014 - NOA2 received in mail.

June 24, 2014 - NVC Case # via phone!

June 25, 2014 - NVC forwarded case to Embassy

June 26, 2014 - Embassy received case.

June 26, 2014 - NVC letter in mail.

August 4-5, 2014 - Medical

August 6, 2014 - CFO Seminar

August 13, 2014 - VIsa Interview (Expedited)

August 19, 2014 - VISA ready for pick up!

August 20, 2014 - Packet 3 Arrived

August 26, 2014 - POE!

August 26, 2014 - Notice to schedule an Interview...

October 23, 2014 - AOS/EAD Package Sent

October 30, 2014 - NOA1 via website

November 1, 2014 - NOA1 received in mail

November 6, 2014 - Biometrics Appointment Scheduled in mail

November 19, 2014 - Biometrics Appointment

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