Discrimination on ap that's all

[Ilovemyman 147]

I think that in many cases usa use ap as a way of discimination.

They discriminate people by religions diferences, age diference or somthing like that.

I dont understand why put people in ap by long time and torture people.

In many cases they approved people without give 221g papers or without missing papers, but put peoole wait long time for issue a visa without the poeple be criminal or terrorist.

They dont tell you that but when they put people in ap without reason is because they think that the beneficiary is a criminal or a terrorist.

They destroy lives people without feel pain doing that.

Usa think that is better that all the country in the world.

They discriminate people and all is right for them.

People dont have the right to get informations., just wait.

Very bad for them.

If one persone hasnt any problem why torture with ap?

[Hypnos 6,576]

Unfortunately it's the law, specifically the PATRIOT Act.

You can thank the Congress that passed it; it was their aim that 9-11 not be repeated.

[blooms 63]

Hi,

Everybody is subject to approval. Some with a little more time for background check some don't.

Could be missing documents or update papers needed. One does not necessarily be related to terrorism/crime to be put under AP.

I understand how you feel as I was in AP, too . Try to be patient and stay positive. Keep checking your status through ceac and ask for updates to the embassy.

How long have you been on AP? Don't lose hope!

Blooms

[Avery Cates 1,141]

I think that in many cases usa use ap as a way of discimination.

They discriminate people by religions diferences, age diference or somthing like that.

I dont understand why put people in ap by long time and torture people.

In many cases they approved people without give 221g papers or without missing papers, but put peoole wait long time for issue a visa without the poeple be criminal or terrorist.

They dont tell you that but when they put people in ap without reason is because they think that the beneficiary is a criminal or a terrorist.

They destroy lives people without feel pain doing that.

Usa think that is better that all the country in the world.

They discriminate people and all is right for them.

People dont have the right to get informations., just wait.

Very bad for them.

If one persone hasnt any problem why torture with ap?

The less people in a country blow themselves up and run amok with scams is the easier it will be for the next person. They more they do it, the harder it is.

It shouldn't be any other way.

[thedude6752000 360]

The less people in a country blow themselves up and run amok with scams is the easier it will be for the next person. They more they do it, the harder it is.

It shouldn't be any other way.

If you could provide an example of someone using an CR-1 or Ir-1 visa to come into the US and "blow themselves up" it might be possible to take this rubbish as anything other than the outright ignorant bigotry it is.

OP is absolutely right, it's nothing but institutionalized racism and bigotry on the part of the US government, but then you would expect that from a country that officially persecuted and enslaved African people for more than 150 years and totally wiped out the indigenous people who lived here.

[Avery Cates 1,141]

If you could provide an example of someone using an CR-1 or Ir-1 visa to come into the US and "blow themselves up" it might be possible to take this rubbish as anything other than the outright ignorant bigotry it is.

OP is absolutely right, it's nothing but institutionalized racism and bigotry on the part of the US government, but then you would expect that from a country that officially persecuted and enslaved African people for more than 150 years and totally wiped out the indigenous people who lived here.

I have no example. Which of course proves that these AP times are worth the trouble.

As an aside you are free to leave to any country that will have you if you find the US so distasteful. That would pull the double duty of potentially solving your wait time woes that you're always on about as well.

Edited June 19, 2014 by Avery Cates

[thedude6752000 360]

I have no example. Which of course proves that these AP times are worth the trouble.

As an aside you are free to leave to any country that will have you if you find the US so distasteful. That would pull the double duty of potentially solving your wait time woes that you're always on about as well.

You have no idea how much it would please me to leave here and rid myself exposure to this very type of ignorance. Und du kannst darauf sicher sein, mein fremdenfeinlicher Freund, dass ich nach Deutschland oder anderswo in Europa umziehen werde, so bald wie die Gelegenheit sich bietet.

[Jawaree 717]

OP may have some points there but it is the law, I do understand everyone cannot

be painted with the same brush but the Patriot Acts came about because the west

mainly the USA do have to stay on high alert due to some misguided religious beliefs

it may not be fair but National Security is important...if it takes long AP to sort things out,

then so it should be...I am quite sure no one has desires for a terrorists to fall thru the cracks

No its not discrimination, it's making sure, unfortunately it delays some more than others

Edited June 19, 2014 by Jawaree

[thedude6752000 360]

OP may have some points there but it is the law, I do understand everyone cannot

be painted with the same brush but the Patriot Acts came about because the west

mainly the USA do have to stay on high alert due to some misguided religious beliefs

it may not be fair but National Security is important...if it takes long AP to sort things out,

then so it should be...I am quite sure no one has desires for a terrorists to fall thru the cracks

No its not discrimination, it's making sure, unfortunately it delays some more than others

People with Muslim names are no more likely to commit "terrorism" than are people with Anglo-Saxon names. If you're not going to "make sure" for Canadian people named "Timothy" and "McVeigh" or Nordic people names "Anders" and "Breivik" than "making sure" only Muhammad is nothing but naked racism.

Edited June 19, 2014 by thedude6752000

[Hypnos 6,576]

Statistically, and let's say looking at things over the last twenty years or so, I think you are mistaken.

Certainly there are plenty of non-Islamic terrorists out there. Timothy McVeigh as you mentioned had extreme right-wing views; Richard Reid the British so-called "shoe-bomber", and Anders Breivik, who again advocated extreme right wing viewpoints.

What you hear about most on the news though are organisations like Al-Quada and the Taliban, both extreme militant Islamic organisations that endorse misogyny, kill women and children in the name of Islam, cut off people's fingers for voting, and essentially try to create Islamic religious states with themselves ruling them. Of course, the proportion of Islamic terrorists compared to the global population that peacefully practice Islam is tiny. The overwhelming majority are law-abiding individuals. And certainly I don't doubt that there are terrorist Jewish people, terrorist Sikhs, terrorist Christians in the world (since I'm from the UK I am particularly familiar with the latter through the Troubles in Northern Ireland), but I would suggest that in the past twenty years or so it is militant Muslims that have committed a great number of terrorist acts, and probably the most, if we're keeping tally by the religion they identify with.

Now, knowing all of this, does that make what the US does right? Does it make it ok how USCIS and US posts overseas take harder looks when the beneficiary has ties to Islamic countries and causes? I would suggest that they are within their rights to do so - up to a point. When you hear the horror stories of people on AP for literally years and years, that I think is pushing the envelope too far. An extra few weeks or even a few months, I think, is a more reasonable price to pay for the aim of ensuring that those people admitted to the US as immigrants are not terrorists, have no links to terrorism, and so another 9/11 will not occur.

To put it bluntly: radical Islam is one of the greatest threats to the security of this country and many others around the world, and I don't think it's out of order that potential beneficiaries from Middle Eastern and North African countries are scrutinised a little more.

Edited June 19, 2014 by Hypnos

[Ilovemyman 147]

I know that usa need be sure about people who they let go there. And need have the country safe.

But why take so long to determinate that a person can go there. Once a person is approved without any issue why take so long?

In my cas I am a woman, math teacher, never havent been arrested, never try to go to usa ilegally, this is my first time that I try to go , and I am trying legally.

I had my interview on march 18 , all was good , no missing papers, no 221g wasnt given.

And now I am in ap 3 months.

Like me, there are a lot of people, that are put in ap without reason.

In my case my name isnt a muslin name and I am from the caribean, I have a normal name.

I dont have criminal record,

But my there is age diference between my fiance and me, and I think that is the problem for them.

They approved me and took my passport, they have it stiil, but I dont understand why the ap.

When the beneficiary doesnt have criminal records and the petitioner either, that is discrimination.

Clear discrimination. They play with people lives without care, and in many cases they issue visas to fraud couples quicker than to the real ones

[Hypnos 6,576]

Discrimination is a word thrown around far too quickly, often as a catch-all argument. "I didn't get that job, so it must be discrimination". " I didn't get my visa yet, it must be discrimination".

They are performing additional checks on you; that is the long and the short of it. They will never tell you what those checks are, or what they find, but at the end of the process you will either receive your visa or you will be denied. It's an imperfect system, but the law is the law.

[kzielu 1,147]

I think that in many cases usa use ap as a way of discimination.

They discriminate people by religions diferences, age diference or somthing like that.

I dont understand why put people in ap by long time and torture people.

In many cases they approved people without give 221g papers or without missing papers, but put peoole wait long time for issue a visa without the poeple be criminal or terrorist.

Those people should thank they're fellow countrymen for being either terrorist or harboring them (like Bin Laden in Pakistan) and if they're hate US so much, they should make up their mind and not attempt to come here.

There may have not been anybody that used K-1 or IR-1 to blow themselves (and others) up - yet. Before 9/11 there wasn't anybody that hijacked a planed and brought down a building(s) with it.

[canadian_wife 1,791]

I've been sitting in AP for naturalization for a year. Married, white, catholic girl, no criminal record (last traffic ticket in 2004), educated, employed

Sometimes the reason for AP eludes us. Discrimination? I don't think so.

Good luck

[kehills 217]

But my there is age diference between my fiance and me, and I think that is the problem for them.

Is it a big age difference? Like, parent/child? Because it might be, if that's the case; that's not really discrimination, though. The folks you should be mad at are the ones who have done greencard marriages of convenience and left immigration suspicious.