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[charles!]

Methinks he meant "Islamist". Maybe an islamic is a religious kind of vinegar?

Mm...mm...islamic vinaigrette! LMAO

i'll have the pork schnitzel, potatoes, and a side salad with the sweet and sour islamic dressing.

PORK!!!!!!!!! with islamic dressing... no, no, no Charles!!!

no no no that's the salad with that.
or do you mean to imply there will be jihad in my stomach after i eat?

the latter... No pork with Islamic anything...

that means the day after i'll launch a katyusha rocket

[mawilson]

Methinks he meant "Islamist". Maybe an islamic is a religious kind of vinegar?

Mm...mm...islamic vinaigrette! LMAO

i'll have the pork schnitzel, potatoes, and a side salad with the sweet and sour islamic dressing.

PORK!!!!!!!!! with islamic dressing... no, no, no Charles!!!

no no no that's the salad with that.
or do you mean to imply there will be jihad in my stomach after i eat?

the latter... No pork with Islamic anything...

that means the day after i'll launch a katyusha rocket

[Sister Fracas]

that means the day after i'll launch a katyusha rocket

look out below!

[Mirorgate]

wow..i heard they are behind the mel gibson comments..most have gotten to mel when he was filming the passion of christ..those chopf##ks

took him out for bier

correct brother mirror..got him drunk and full of islamic rhetoric

damn... now they interferin with the blessed peeps of HOLYWOOD!
where will it end? where?

[Veiled Princess]

It is what passes as an insult from donkeys

Hmar!

Very good!

[Booyah!]

Well they are not made up pictures. These are real. That is fact and not propaganda.

well it's not as if they were not warned to get out. The Israelis even dropped flyers advising them to get out..

Funny how a few years ago no one seemed to care when Islamic suicide bombers 'deliberately' bombed buses of Israeli children..

[PlatyPius]

I read something interesting on a site a few minutes ago; posted about it too. They listed some of the pictures from Qana and commented on them. They suggested that perhaps the bodies shown in the photos were of people who didn't actually die THERE. They have a point.

Most of the bodies shown - the people were alleged to have died in the building collapse - have no signs of blood or injury, as one would expect from a building falling on you. Also, they almost all had perfectly clean hair, and very little plaster/concrete dust on them anywhere. Next, they pointed out that these images were from 1 hour after the collapse of the building, yet all of the bodies showed signs of advanced rigor mortis. Lastly, there was a picture of one child who was covered in dirt and dust; the only one I saw. However, hanging from the child's shirt was a perfectly clean, bright blue pacifier. WTF?

I don't really know WHAT to think. I agree with them about the evidence, or lack thereof, in the images. I also believe that Israel did indeed blow up a building. I don't find it outside the realm of possibility however, that the bodies were planted after the fact. There were allegedly 60 people in the building when it was hit. They've recovered 28 bodies, mostly of children. How many kids do these people have??? Does anyone else find it odd that a building blown up by Israel just happens to have an entire village of children in it?

Anyway, here's the site I mentioned. Warning: graphic images, conservative viewpoints, etc.

http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/188571.php

[desert_fox]

This is all a part of their PR stategy. They could care less about their own ppl or some country. They are willing to sacrafice it all for their cause. The delibertlly launch missles from residential neighborhoods, knowing that the Israelis will respond. They hide behind civilians (against the Geneva Convention) and then use the world court of public opinion showing all these innocents that are killed. Funny it always women and children...never the men...pre-arranged???

I hope that Isarael kills evey one of these MF's. Some ppl here that are trying to get their SO's from these screwed up countries and post their crap will be posting in other forums wondering why is it taking so long to get their SO's here. NO WONDER!!!

[jordanianprinces...]

This is all a part of their PR stategy. They could care less about their own ppl or some country. They are willing to sacrafice it all for their cause. The delibertlly launch missles from residential neighborhoods, knowing that the Israelis will respond. They hide behind civilians (against the Geneva Convention) and then use the world court of public opinion showing all these innocents that are killed. Funny it always women and children...never the men...pre-arranged???

I hope that Isarael kills evey one of these MF's. Some ppl here that are trying to get their SO's from these screwed up countries and post their crap will be posting in other forums wondering why is it taking so long to get their SO's here. NO WONDER!!!

I think someone has a thing or 2 to learn about manners. I think your post is more than RUDE, who are you to wish death upon people? ITs easy for you to say because its not your familiy or your loved ones. It's soooo easy to say sitting in your comfy home, isn't it?

PR Strategy?????? Are you completly insane or just cold hearted? Does the loss of innocent life not affect you at all? Or maybe because they are arabs then it doesn't matter? They deliberatly launch missles from THEIR neighborhoods to protect them from occupation. Pre-arranged? Where do you want these people to go? They have no where to go. 56 women and children all in one building sounds to me like their were hiding their for safety. How is that funny? Thats NORMAL, women and children are always protected in the line of fire. Where else can they put them? Should they check into the Holiday Inn down the street? Geez get real, serisouly. Your post is just so filled with hate towards these arabs.

BY THE WAY, there are only 2 people in the ME/NA forum going through Lebanon( one of them is already here) and one from Palestine. Most everyone else is from Morocco which is not even the Middle East and many from Egypt and Jordan which are on good terms with the US.

[Bosco]

This is all a part of their PR stategy. They could care less about their own ppl or some country. They are willing to sacrafice it all for their cause. The delibertlly launch missles from residential neighborhoods, knowing that the Israelis will respond. They hide behind civilians (against the Geneva Convention) and then use the world court of public opinion showing all these innocents that are killed. Funny it always women and children...never the men...pre-arranged???

I hope that Isarael kills evey one of these MF's. Some ppl here that are trying to get their SO's from these screwed up countries and post their crap will be posting in other forums wondering why is it taking so long to get their SO's here. NO WONDER!!!

According to Haartz News (an Isreali paper) link

It now appears that the military had no information on rockets launched from the site of the building, or the presence of Hezbollah men at the time.

The Israel Defense Forces had said after the deadly air-strike that many rockets had been launched from Qana. However, it changed its version on Monday.

The site was included in an IAF plan to strike at several buildings in proximity to a previous launching site. Similar strikes were carried out in the past. However, there were no rocket launches from Qana on the day of the strike.

[Gene Hunt]

I hope someday logic, reason and rationality drowns out the over-emotional loud-mouthed 'kill crazy' psychopathic freaks who think sacrificing our values to defeat a perceived enemy (however evil) is a worthwhile sacrifice. There's a certain amount of hypocrisy there.

'Hypocrisy' is also demanding that an entire civilian population abandon their houses, land and possessions and evacuate the region. Then slaughtering large numbers of those who remain (who are unable for one reason or another, to leave) and blaming it on Hezbullah for using them as human shields. Not exactly a 'fair game' in my view.

[desert_fox]

This is all a part of their PR stategy. They could care less about their own ppl or some country. They are willing to sacrafice it all for their cause. The delibertlly launch missles from residential neighborhoods, knowing that the Israelis will respond. They hide behind civilians (against the Geneva Convention) and then use the world court of public opinion showing all these innocents that are killed. Funny it always women and children...never the men...pre-arranged???

I hope that Isarael kills evey one of these MF's. Some ppl here that are trying to get their SO's from these screwed up countries and post their crap will be posting in other forums wondering why is it taking so long to get their SO's here. NO WONDER!!!

I think someone has a thing or 2 to learn about manners. I think your post is more than RUDE, who are you to wish death upon people? ITs easy for you to say because its not your familiy or your loved ones. It's soooo easy to say sitting in your comfy home, isn't it?

PR Strategy?????? Are you completly insane or just cold hearted? Does the loss of innocent life not affect you at all? Or maybe because they are arabs then it doesn't matter? They deliberatly launch missles from THEIR neighborhoods to protect them from occupation. Pre-arranged? Where do you want these people to go? They have no where to go. 56 women and children all in one building sounds to me like their were hiding their for safety. How is that funny? Thats NORMAL, women and children are always protected in the line of fire. Where else can they put them? Should they check into the Holiday Inn down the street? Geez get real, serisouly. Your post is just so filled with hate towards these arabs.

BY THE WAY, there are only 2 people in the ME/NA forum going through Lebanon( one of them is already here) and one from Palestine. Most everyone else is from Morocco which is not even the Middle East and many from Egypt and Jordan which are on good terms with the US.

Jordan...Israel has a peace agreement with Jordan which they have always respected. Jordan is one of out few friends in the region, but they know that they want no part of this.

Yes...kill every one of them MF terrrorists.....see how bad I will feel.

They keep the W and C there...they wont allow them to leave...they want that colateral damnage.
They could care less...part of their plan. They are wiling to sacrifice any country that they have to due to some religious crazies.

[Gene Hunt]

I made the point earlier that the difficulty of determining who is or isn't a "terrorist" is not particularly clear cut. One guy with a gun is much the same as another and may have vastly different motivations and affilitations.

Israel's continued targetting of the civilian infrastructure, both in Palestine and in Lebanon makes me think that they've adopted the tactics of their enemies and that ultimately they don't care, and consider everyone fair game in Southern Lebanon.

Telling people to leave an area is one thing, its another entirely for those people to actually do it.... and... go where... exactly? Considering that airstrikes have destroyed airports, major roads and other transport infrastructure, they've arguably reduced movements of weapons and artillery, but they've also curtailed the movement of people.

[charles!]

I think someone has a thing or 2 to learn about manners. I think your post is more than RUDE, who are you to wish death upon people? ITs easy for you to say because its not your familiy or your loved ones. It's soooo easy to say sitting in your comfy home, isn't it?

i find that which i bolded to be quite ironic
so what does this about sitting in a comfy home got to do with anything? are you advocating he go join in the war over there in some shape or fashion?

PR Strategy?????? Are you completly insane or just cold hearted? Does the loss of innocent life not affect you at all? Or maybe because they are arabs then it doesn't matter? They deliberatly launch missles from THEIR neighborhoods to protect them from occupation. Pre-arranged? Where do you want these people to go? They have no where to go. 56 women and children all in one building sounds to me like their were hiding their for safety. How is that funny? Thats NORMAL, women and children are always protected in the line of fire. Where else can they put them? Should they check into the Holiday Inn down the street? Geez get real, serisouly. Your post is just so filled with hate towards these arabs.

are you really serious to believe that there is no PR going on with this? and launching missiles from the neighborhood makes them a legit target, with the understanding that they (the israelis) will do everything they can to minimize civilian casualties. if they were launching nukes from that area would you still say the neighborhood should be off limits? i too have seen reports that the bodies found in that building are questionable in that they could have been planted there. perhaps a conspiracy theory, perhaps some truth to that as it would make bad PR for the israelis.

BY THE WAY, there are only 2 people in the ME/NA forum going through Lebanon( one of them is already here) and one from Palestine. Most everyone else is from Morocco which is not even the Middle East and many from Egypt and Jordan which are on good terms with the US.

try as i may, i fail to see how this has any bearing really as his statement was broad, not specific to lebanon.

The site was included in an IAF plan to strike at several buildings in proximity to a previous launching site. Similar strikes were carried out in the past. However, there were no rocket launches from Qana on the day of the strike.

oops. please furnish the idf with an appropriate schedule so they can bomb when there are launches from there
it baffles me how so many seem to think that modern war should result in zero civilian casualties on either side.

I hope someday logic, reason and rationality drowns out the over-emotional loud-mouthed 'kill crazy' psychopathic freaks who think sacrificing our values to defeat a perceived enemy (however evil) is a worthwhile sacrifice. There's a certain amount of hypocrisy there.

'Hypocrisy' is also demanding that an entire civilian population abandon their houses, land and possessions and evacuate the region. Then slaughtering large numbers of those who remain (who are unable for one reason or another, to leave) and blaming it on Hezbullah for using them as human shields. Not exactly a 'fair game' in my view.

is that not what hezbollah and a few other groups want?

I made the point earlier that the difficulty of determining who is or isn't a "terrorist" is not particularly clear cut. One guy with a gun is much the same as another and may have vastly different motivations and affilitations.

Israel's continued targetting of the civilian infrastructure, both in Palestine and in Lebanon makes me think that they've adopted the tactics of their enemies and that ultimately they don't care, and consider everyone fair game in Southern Lebanon.

Telling people to leave an area is one thing, its another entirely for those people to actually do it.... and... go where... exactly? Considering that airstrikes have destroyed airports, major roads and other transport infrastructure, they've arguably reduced movements of weapons and artillery, but they've also curtailed the movement of people.

good point. why are the neighboring countries not offering safe haven for the refugees?
as for how to get there....diesel. diesel feet will take you anywhere. imagine that, walking!
but as previously mentioned, i doubt many can leave - they are being held hostage

[kofuku]

Well they are not made up pictures. These are real. That is fact and not propaganda.

well it's not as if they were not warned to get out. The Israelis even dropped flyers advising them to get out..

Tell that to the Katrina victims stranded in New Orleans. Like they had a choice to leave, too.